Dear California: I’m Leaving You. Here’s Why…

California, I'm leaving you I’ve lived in California for my entire adult life, beginning way back when I was a naive 18-year-old living in the dorms of San Jose State University. (Talk about culture shock…coming from a small farm town in Indiana to the inner city of downtown San Jose!)

In 2009, after living in the Bay Area for nearly 10 years, I decided I wanted a change of pace. San Diego called my name, and I’ve been here since. But now I’m ready to move on…and I’m sad to say the reason why.

You see, I love it here in San Diego. The weather is amazing, the beaches are beautiful, and the people are friendly and generally entrepreneurial. It’s a refreshing change from the Bay Area, where everyone seemed like they were always “too busy” to hang out. Here, life is more laid-back, and I’ve grown to appreciate it.

But one thing I’ve struggled with about California for years is the government. (Yes, I’m going to break my own unspoken rule and wax political on my blog.) The government is notoriously business-unfriendly–with everything from high taxes on business earnings to badgering businesses into more work.)

Examples of the Crap California’s Government has Put Me Through

Okay, you want examples. Here are a few things I’ve had to deal with:

  1. The State of California arbitrarily decided that all businesses that gross over $100,000/year should have an account where you have to report quarterly on the sales tax your customers pay you for goods sold. The only problem? My company only sold services–not products–which aren’t taxed in California. When I closed the account (by going into a local office and spending nearly an hour explaining my situation), they forced it open again and sent me a nastygram explaining that I would owe fines for not filing the quarterly report. You have to file it 4 times a year, and it takes time to fill out, even if you haven’t sold any products and owe the state nothing.
  2. The state charges an income tax of 10% on all income over $47,055. This is in addition to the Federal income tax of 25% on income over $34,001. This is also in addition to an 8.25-9.25% sales tax (depending on where you buy products.) I paid enough in income tax for 2010 to the state of California alone to hire another new worker for my business. I’d bet a lot of money that I’m far more efficient at creating jobs as a small business owner than the state is given the same amount of money. I’d rather have that money to hire someone.
  3. And a really dumb law for small business owners, which Meg Whitman promised to repeal: An annual fee of $800 just to have a corporation in the state of California. (Most states don’t charge you, or only charge you a few dollars, as an annual fee to set up a business. California’s is exorbitant, and it applies as long as you, the primary officer of the corporation, live in California…no matter where you incorporate.)

The Final Straw

But the final straw came recently. I had an inkling that if California voters elected Jerry Brown that I’d end up leaving the state. I campaigned hard for Meg Whitman, as she is extremely supportive of small businesses like mine. Alas, she didn’t win, and California elected a governor for another term who was a ridiculously weak governor in his first term.

And he managed to royally screw things up for small businesses again. Here’s what happened: I have a side income selling products on Amazon. Recently, I’ve invested far more time and money in building niche sites to help bolster my Amazon side income. It’s steadily gone up, from a few hundred dollars a year to what will amount to a few thousand dollars this year. Sure, it’s not a ton of money, but I get the payments in Amazon credit and use them to buy many everyday items.

And then Jerry Brown, our idiot governor, signed a budget that included what many have come to call an “Amazon tax”. Basically, the law says that if Amazon has affiliates (people like me who drive traffic to Amazon in exchange for a cut of sales made from people who click through our links), that Amazon has a “presence” in the state of California–and therefore must collect sales tax here. (Kind of like forcing small businesses to file ridiculous quarterly paperwork based solely on our earnings, not on whether we actually sell taxable goods…)

Amazon made the right decision: Instead of kowtowing to California, they immediately cut off all affiliates here in the state.

And that day, I decided to move. It was a “straw that broke the camel’s back” sort of thing.

Jerry Brown Makes an Idiot Move

Here’s the deal: Amazon sends me a 1099 every year. For those of you not in the United States, it means they send the state government, the Federal government, and me a “receipt” every year showing how much I’ve earned in affiliate commissions. I am then required to pay income tax on that money. And I was dutifully paying income tax on all money earned from Amazon for years.

The state of California just cost itself a bunch of money with that deal. Now, not only do they make less money from affiliates like me who paid income tax on income received from Amazon, but they don’t make any more money from Amazon, because Amazon still doesn’t have to pay sales tax to California.

This is, in effect, one of the dumbest laws ever passed. And it’s pretty much par for the course for someone like Jerry Brown.

I could get around the law by setting up a corporation in some other state and then setting up my Amazon payments to go through that corporation. But then I’d still have to go through the hassle of registering that corporation in California and paying the $800 annual fee (because I live here.) And, of course, I’d still have to pay all those bloody state income taxes. Why bother–when I can just move somewhere else and use that money to help my business and create jobs instead?

But Where to Move…?

The obvious states to move to were states with no state income tax, so that I can move there and immediately create a new job in that state instead of just paying state income tax with that money. The states with no personal income tax are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming.

In addition, it would be nice to not pay business income tax, either. From the list above, only Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, and Wyoming have no corporate income tax. (See the full list of states with no income tax on Wikipedia.)

Of those four states, Texas is by far the most palatable. I already spend a few weeks a year in Austin thanks to various speaking gigs. In fact, Austin and Las Vegas are the two cities I travel to most. I didn’t want to live in Las Vegas…so Austin it is.

Brian and I are moving to Austin before the end of the year. At this point, I’m not sure exactly when we’ll move, but it will be in November at the latest. And to California, I say: Love your weather–but good riddance!

About the Weather…

The beauty of running an Internet business is that we can truly live anywhere. Yes, Austin gets hot in the summer. But I don’t care, because I will have the income flexibility (thanks to both lower taxes and a lower cost of living) to spend a few months out of the year anywhere I like, as long as it has Internet access. That means I definitely see more long-term, international travel in my future–something I’ve wanted to do for a while. Austin will be a great “home base”, and with its thriving tech and Internet marketing communities, I feel confident we will pick up some great Whoosh Traffic customers there too.

California just isn’t worth it. My priorities have changed. I value income freedom and flexibility more than I value living near the beach. I value having a paid-off house I can call “home” more than I value having a half-million-dollar noose around my neck that declines in value by the day.

Republican vs. Democrat

And lest you think I’m “Republican”, let’s set the record straight on that, too: I believe in small government, dramatically lower spending, and the right for everyone to smoke marijuana and marry whomever they want (as long as both people are consenting adults.) I refused to vote Republican or Democrat in the last presidential election because both candidates believed we should spend our way out of a spending problem. And I abhor the Republicans’ current stance of cutting spending on everything but the military. I love Ron Paul as a politician, but I don’t understand how someone so obviously brilliant doesn’t believe in evolution, and it’s for that reason that I don’t want to see him run as President. If forced to define myself, I tell people I’m a Libertarian.

There, I should have pretty much pissed everyone off with that last paragraph. Now wage your wars in the comments. I’ll go run my business, create jobs, and continue to advocate for less government, fewer laws, and the freedom for us all to create more small businesses…from my new home in Austin, Texas!

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  • http://www.kevinvelasco.com Kevin Velasco

    I’ve had to dodge many bullets by the entire US government with my online poker background. This year they finally pulled the plug on the major poker sites… damn politics!

    I lived in Austin for 6 years and absolutely loved it. I find it very synchronous how I dreamed we were eating pizza & talking marketing and then the next day you said you were moving to Austin!

    Here are some Austin averages:
    Average Days of Sunshine: 300 or so (includes partly cloudy)
    Average # of Days Above 90 degrees: 111
    Average # of Days Above 80 degrees: 198
    Average # of Days Below 45 degrees: 88
    Average # of Days Below 32 degrees (freezing): 19

    Let’s not forget about Austin’s low real estate prices compared to California! I’m excited to see how the Austin entrepreneur community will be affected by yours and Brian’s presence!

    • Al

      Although, Texas has lower real estate prices, property taxes are going to shock you.

    • http://bigpinkcookie.com Christine

      Also, FYI – in case you haven’t already heard, Texas has considered that same law that California passed in regards to Amazon & affiliate sales. It is still a battle being waged, and it hasn’t been decided. Just a warning.

      Property taxes can be high here, but still less than everything else in some other states.

    • Derek

      micro-evolution is true while macro- (neo-darwinism) has not been proven erica. i agree with you on spending cuts. we also need entitlement cuts and a smaller government. and yes,LOWER taxes. which produce more revenue as it gets people back working. Ron Paul is a nutjob. he believes in letting the #1 state sponsor of terror develop nukes. he has not written one bill that has been legislated into law in his 25 years in congress.

    • teapartydoc

      If Ron Paul is a nut job because he won’t stop Iran from making nukes, please explain the relative sanity of the last two or three presidents and a host of legislators who say they will, but then do nothing to stop that same activity. Which position is more sane?

  • http://tumbledesign.com Nicky Hajal

    I have to say after just a few days a year in Austin for SXSW, I’ve already thought about spending some time living there longer-term. The city and area it’s in is beautiful and has a very unique vibe.

    Of course, the way you break it down here makes even more sense from a practical standpoint. Love how you figured out what matters most to you and just filtered based on that – no nonsense!

    Looking forward to hearing more about how the transition works out for you!

  • David B.

    Erica, you are going to love Texas. And you are going to love the extra money in your pocket every month from making a tough decision and taking action. What an intelligent and inspiring post…keep leading wisely!

  • Jan

    Congrats on your choice. Not all taxes are a waste, but if a place is exceptionally bad for business, it doesn’t make economic sense to stay there.

    I hope you’ll be very happy in Austin!

  • http://superbadinternetmarketing.com Jeff

    As a small business owner living in California, I feel your pain. It’s a good thing they have beautiful weather, beaches and mountains because the government is the worst. They really are clueless.

    Unfortunately, the federal government isn’t far behind them.

    It’s great that you have a truly location-independent business so you can pick up and move to Austin.

    I could say more about the problems the CA government creates for business owners, but it just increases my blood pressure. I’ll just say good luck in Austin and enjoy the perks!

    JC

  • http://connection-revolution.com Pace Smith

    We’ll keep Texas warm for you!

    …I don’t think it’ll be a problem! (;

  • Buddy R

    Kudos to you Erica. If I had a nickel for every friend or acquaintance I know that is moving or has recently moved to Texas, I could retire. Thanks for telling it like it is. I live in Nevada and enjoy a lot of the perks to owning a business here, but after we re-elected Harry Reid, I said, “I’m out”. I’ll be moving to Texas as soon as is feasible.

    By the way, I just read recently that half of all new jobs created this year in the U.S. were in…drum roll….Texas!

    • Curtis H.

      The actual count is 30% of all new jobs in the nation were created in Texas.

      The fringe left detractors of this figure cite the higher percentage of minimum wage jobs Texas has. But here’s the kicker… The minimum wage is the same, whether you live in California, or whether you live in Texas. And believe me – A dollar goes a LOT farther here in Texas than it does in California. Our minimum wage employees are like people making twice that in Ca. Besides, many of them also receive gratuities.

      Texas is a great place to live. Welcome, Erica, we’re glad to have you!

      Signed, Curtis the Houstonian

  • http://almostbohemian.com/ David W.

    Erica, I hear you. I’m leaving at the end of the year too. I can’t handle all the bad politics here. Which is too bad. I moved here thinking it would be a bit more ideal, but bad politics have ruined it for me. Me and three friends went hiking and ended up with $475 tickets each for trespassing. It was an old service road near a damn about 20 feet from the main trail. Bummer.

    But really, $2k in fines for a picnic? Absurd. And I’m out. It’s too bad CA is losing good folks.

    • Dale

      David W. You should also think of moving. If you love hiking and camping East Tennessee is for you. We also have lots of lakes and rivers. No state income tax, good roads, and friendly people. We have lots of hiking trails and I mean a lot of them. If if you like caving Tennessee has more caves then another state. Mountain white water streams and rivers and some of the best fresh water fishing in the country.
      Also you cam hike around your Dams. The Law is not going around looking for hikers to fine. The most they would do is let you know that you are trespassing and that you need to leave.

    • Mason

      I live in L.A. and I agree, it’s those random idiotic fines that are the worst. I’m looking in your direction, meter maids.

  • http://about.me/kmbro Karen B

    Austin is fantastic – and it’s dry heat, so it’s not unbearable. Good luck with the move! I think I might miss Taco Cabana and Central Market more than just about anything.

    Oh, and on Libertarianism, it offends Jared but I say pretty much the same thing. (Latest library find: Your Teacher Said WHAT?! Defending our Kids from the Liberal Assault on Capitalism)

    • james

      Karen: Central Markets are part of HEB, a chain which originated in Texas (near Auatin) and there are two central markets in Austin, plus numerous Taco Cabanas.

    • Kellen Benjamin

      Central Market may be the thing I miss most about Austin. It’s either that or Alamo Drafthouse….

  • Mario

    OK. It is now official: I love you and Brian!

    You are going to LOVE the “extra” 10%+ you put in your pocket every year. If you just can’t stand it, you can hire someone and take more time off! You are going to find lots of libertarians in Austin…You’ve already met one of them! ;) But, the truth is Austin is the heart of the democrat rebellion in Texas.

    At any rate, I hope to see you around town…there are absolutely awesome gluten free places to eat! Not to mention SXSW and ACL.

  • Valerie

    I’ve never been to California, but from the stories I’ve heard for years I have no desire to live there. Sure, I’d like to visit. But over my dead body I’ll live there, and even then… forget it. Being from Florida (and not being impressed with beaches), all of that government nonsense would have driven me up a wall faster than you can say “Big Brother.”

    • Bill

      I’ve never been, either … and I live in WA state – but, the more I read about CA; its’ politics, its’ Hollywoodinistas, its’ sick money-grubing government – why even waste a bus ticket to go there?

      I lived in Texas for several years, and I’ve been to Austin. LOVED IT!!! It’s one of those cities you pass through and think to yourself, “Wow, this would be a great place to settle in, and put down some roots.”

      Glad to hear you’re making the move, Erika; it’s a great testimony to young entrepreneurs who run businesses that aren’t location-specific; FREEDOM, baby!

      And the Texans are right about Austin – it’s a dry heat, and you hardly notice it.

      Have a beer for me when you get settled, OK?

  • http://www.commonsensemarketing.net Sarah Russenll

    Haha – far from pissing me off with the last paragraph, I actually couldn’t agree more :) I tend to vote Democrat because of social issues, but damn if people from both parties aren’t f’ing things up right now.

    That must have been so frustrating to deal with all those financial issues – I’m not affected but it’s hard for me to process the idiocy of laws that make Amazon pull out of states altogether. Let me be the first to put in a vote for WI for your summer months – it’s gorgeous here this time of year!

  • Matt Sauls

    Consider this article bookmarked. I’ll be sending this manifesto to any of my big government friends when these topics come up. I wish you and your biz the best of luck in Texas!

  • Ryan Hochstetler

    Austin certainly is a stellar choice. There’s a nice concentration of entertainment, rack space, bandwidth, and unemployed geeks. It’s a hip oasis in the vast desert of redneck boring. A standard-sized car will suffice, as Austin drivers aren’t as full of rage and well-equiped as drivers in the rest of the state (raised Ford F650s with well-worn grille guards on the front). I’m curious as to why you overlooked the Portland area. It’s just as hip, just as techie, and if you live across the river in Washington, the taxes are nearly as low. There’s no income tax, a 1.8% business income tax for your type of business, and according to my cursory inspection on Zillow, property taxes are lower than Texas. Moving on to things Portland has that Texas doesn’t have: An enjoyable coast (The gulf coast is dirty, dirty, dirty), green vegetation, a noticeably more liberal mindset, mountains within driving distance, other interesting cities within driving distance, access to two major tech markets within 4 hours drive, numerous outdoor recreation areas, mild climate, few droughts, and plentiful utilities. Also, Washington is not full of Texans. :) Furthermore, neither Oregon or Washington have major football dynasties; so you never have to listen to someone griping on Monday morning in line at Starbucks about how the coaching staff should be fired and banned from the state.

    As soon as my wife is released from her service to the Air Force, we’re packing up for Seattle or Portland/Vancouver. Nebraska has been better than Texas (mostly, I think it’s the lack of Texans), but we’re just bored to tears here in Omaha. It has been a spectacular place to ride-out the recession. My house hasn’t lost a nickel of value since I bought it. Huge custom homes can be had for right around $250k. Unemployment has stayed low. I really ought not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I just can’t get over the boring, flat, featureless land that surrounds this city. I guess my point, by way of relating my own story of finding myself in the wrong city/state, is don’t underestimate the effect the 4-hour driving radius will have on your quality of life. Is there really enough within 4-hours of Austin to keep you interested for the long-term? I hope your answer is “yes”, but mine was an unequivocal “no” when I lived in San Antonio.

    • http://www.brianfryer.com brian

      We did spend some time in Portland, but feel much more at “home” in Austin. And Texans are, hands-down, the *friendliest* people we’ve ever met :-)

    • Rick T.

      Congratulations on winning the thread for most stereotypes per post.

      You cannot have owned your home for very long as it is metaphysically impossible for you not to have lost value on your home AND there are “huge custom homes can be had for right around $250k.” Imperfect as it is, Zillow also disagrees with you:

      http://www.zillow.com/local-info/OR-Portland-home-value/r_13373/

    • John

      “Moving on to things Portland has that Texas doesn’t have: An enjoyable coast (The gulf coast is dirty, dirty, dirty), green vegetation, a noticeably more liberal mindset,”
      A more liberal mindset? Thats why shes moving out of kalifornia. Liberals run kalifornia, thats why they tax you to death.

    • Redgypsy

      11 years ago moved my business from Texas (taxass) to Washinton state.
      Our tax cost even with 1.5% b&o is much less.
      Then issurance costs are half. Quality food ( not junk) is much cheaper.
      And electricity is 1/3 of Texas cost and you use a lot less.
      I Live in a village in far western part of state 75% are Texas expats just like my self.

      Red

    • Walt

      It’s true. Portland is not over-run with Texans. We are over-run with bicyclists, than which, there is nothing more infected with righteous self-esteemia. But then on the other hand, perhaps there aren’t all that many Texans in Austin, either. Pity.

    • Bill

      Ryan, I’m guessing that anyone who supported and voted for Meg Whitman against Jerry Brown is gonna want to live in a conservative state. I know Erika doesn’t talk politics, but she’s doing the right things and going to the right places. I live in Seattle, but one of the few things I dislike about the area is its’ liberal leanings (and green-obsessed liberal government).

      It doesn’t stop me from voting conservative/Tea Party every chance I get, though.

      The point is, she seems better fitted for Austin … the capital of a state that may very well send the next President to the White House.

  • http://www.invoicefox.com Janko

    IMHO You hit it on a major nail about left / right and Ron Paul.

  • teresa

    Whether they are on the left, right or hovering somewhere in the middle, there are a lot of people who feel exactly as you do. But with all the kicking and screaming going on in politics (I refer to most politicians as toddlers because that is how they have been behaving), we feel we can never be heard. I, for one, tend to be more liberal…but somewhere there must be a middle ground where maybe not everyone gets what they want, but most can get what they need.

  • http://www.heidiwalter.com Heidi Walter

    I agree with you, Erica, that the Amazon tax is one of the stupidest ones ever passed. They did the same thing here in Illinois and Amazon fired me as an affiliate. I never made a whole lot, but the potential to was there.

    One nice place to spend hot summers is Door County, WI. Many people from Chicago, Minnesota and other states have summer homes there because the climate is so nice. And in case you’re looking to buy something there (hint, hint, LOL), I have vacant shore property for sale. Right on Lake Michigan. http://www.wilsonshaffer.com/listman/listings//l0085.html. OK, that was a plug but it’s really lovely land. Door Co. is a bit of a hidden gem. I hope you like Austin, friends of mine lived there some years ago and loved it.

    All the best to you,

    Heidi

  • Ponyryd

    I’m glad to see more people are voting with their feet. Any recommendations on a tax haven country to move to when the feds finally implode?

    • http://www.alexcurylo.com Alex Curylo

      If you’re a small (< $500k) business owner, anywhere in Canada and B.C./Alberta in particular are a pretty serious tax haven for you compared to the U.S., most likely.

      No, seriously. Check it out. This is a country where even the fairly hardcore socialist NDP party makes it a platform plank to reduce small business taxes by 20% … and they’re already like a third to two-thirds of yours in many cases.

    • Bill

      Alex C. is right about Canada; take a look at what the Conservative government has been able to accomplish there over the past few years; its’ one of the few countries to sidestep the economic woes, and it’s business-friendly.

      Plus … there’s very little chance of them invading us, so, there’s that, too.

  • http://www.darwinsmoney.com Darwin’s Money

    What an excellent, excellent piece. What’s going on in California is a classic money-grab. As states blew their budgets and spent like drunken sailors during an uptrend, they crashed during a recession (which we all know occurs each business cycle). But alas, politicians don’t get elected for fiscal prudence. They win elections by promising people stuff, whether it’s affordable or not. I blame the public as much as the politicians for the ridiculous money-grab that continues to occur in states, municipalities and the federal government. The voting public has yet to say, “enough”.

    Regarding your future destination, aside from the obvious current tax rates, something else you may want to evaluate is the fiscal strength and historical voting record in the state. i.e. you may move to a low-tax state only to find in a year that they’ve embarked on the same money-grab philosophy.

    I agree very much with your politics as well. I wasn’t aware Ron Paul didn’t believe in evolution – I like him otherwise. It’s 2011; I find it hard to understand how any educated American is still an evolution-denier. But it’s probably over half the population still, which says something…my name’s Darwin after all…

    • marilyn

      My cat’s name is Darwin. My favorite course in college was Evolution. And I went to a Mormon school. End interesting Mormon fact. Why haven’t I subscribed to your blog?

      Erica, I’m going to dissent with the Texas theme and vote Florida. Besides that, I will disclose I voted libertarian too.

    • http://www.englishfix.com David

      Believing in Evolution and believing in Deity/Creationism are both the same – they are BELIEFS. There is zero proof for evolution, unless you have a time machine. It’s a theory, not a scientific fact. Unless the creator shows himself to everyone, it’s also a belief. I believe in science that can be proven.

  • Patrick

    WOW! The reason I think most people don’t write politically themed blog posts is because you’ll set people off on one side or the other, but this? I can’t find an argument against it. Maybe I’m just one who agrees, but very well written with fact and blunt truth. Nice. I love it.

    I really just wanted to reply to promote the place that many people would think is that last place they would want to move… Michigan.

    I grew up in Michigan and having owned a small business I can’t say everything is great here, but I think there is progress being made. Additionally living on the west side of the state (Grand Rapids) I’ve found a tremendous entrepreneurial spirit and tech community. There are literally more groups and more smart people than I have time to hang out with and more good beer than I can possibly share with all of them. We’re a small city, but a pretty vibrant one if you ask me. I haven’t lived in San Fransisco, New York, L.A., Chicago, or any other large city, but having visited them for business and pleasure I have to say Grand Rapids has come out on top for it’s low cost of living, high quality or life and great tech community.

    Check out this super cheesy video for a little more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPjjZCO67WI

    Back to the subject of your post: Thank you thank you thank you for putting together a well thought out and well written post on the current state of your state and summing up what I think most of us think.

  • Trip

    I live in Cali and it is so beautiful. I don’t own a business, but I appreciate your blog, because I didn’t know about all the taxes that were imposed on small businesses. I really disagree with the taxes on Internet business as well.

    Your situation reminds me of when I lived in an apartment that came under new ownership. The new owners renovated the entire building, but alienated the tenants with their inconsiderate practices (starting construction at 7:00 AM on a Saturday, shutting off the water for most of the day, and blocking off the parking lot for several days). Some people sued the owners.

    The reason I didn’t sue was because lawsuits last a very long time. I didn’t want to feel angry all the time. I looked around and found out that there were many apartment buildings in my area that had vacancies, which were cheaper. I moved out and was instantly happier.

    It looks like you made the same choice. I wish you more continued success!

  • http://www.fumeecigars.com Heather

    I am a small business owner in Austin who also moved here from California. I’ve been happy with the choice, but be warned that Austin makes up for that no income tax thing with very high property tax. Even so, compared to CA, everything is cheaper.

    When you arrive, if you’d like some information about local tech groups/incubators/networking events, feel free to contact me. I’d be happy to give you the entrepreneur’s tour of Austin. Contact info available on my website. –Heather

    • http://www.brianfryer.com brian

      Really lookin’ forward to it, Heather! I’m definitely interested in checking out the lounge/bar and having a cigar or two when we get there ;^)

    • cobra

      Heather,
      I am also looking to move to Texas: to Dallas or Austin.
      Since am a hard core high tech guy, working in Silicon Valley, I guess I could find a job in either place, but I think it would be easier in Dallas due to the size of the market there.
      I would appreciate some insight into that.
      Thank you.

  • http://www.firmfinancialfooting.com Dustin B.

    Erica, THANK YOU for taking a stand against the stupidity and incompetence of CA’s out-of-control government and their insane regulations. No rational person can blame you for leaving. Frankly, I can’t believe you lasted this long! Your article, while discouraging, is a breath of fresh air. It’s unfortunate that more businesses and entrepreneurs don’t speak up about these issues. Imagine how many thousands of other businesses feel the same way you do, but they remain silent. I applaud the way you are “voting with your feet” and moving out of California. It sends a very clear message to CA’s “leaders”, but I doubt they will get it. Unfortunately, your story will not be the last. You definitely have my support, and respect. Good luck in TX!

  • http://www.flowsimple.com Pashmina

    Thank you for this post. Now I have some place to reference when I talk about the pros and cons of expense and taxes of California. And while your post focused on the tax laws and tax burdens, the other benefit of moving is your cost of living is going to get significantly cheaper OR your living style and standards will get way higher!

    Also, if you really want to get the detailed pic on taxes, I’d look at all 3 tax rates and the sum of them: personal, business and state + local sales. eg. Austin, Texas has a sales tax rate of 8.25% AND if you’re at all interested in buying property then property tax can be an influential factor too.

  • http://mywifequitherjob.com/from-0-to-quit-why-you-should-start-an-online-store-today-and-why-niche-shops-are-so-powerful/ Steve |MyWifeQuitHerJob

    Sorry to see you go, but I agree that California sucks for business owners and if it continues on like this, then all businesses will jump ship for states with better tax laws.

    I’m glad I’m not a big Amazon affiliate

  • http://www.rodolforodarte.com Rudy Rodarte

    Glad to see you are voting with your feet! You’re most welcome here, in Austin! We can whip up some gluten free BBQ sauce for you! :)

  • Francine Hardaway

    And that’s why I sold my house in HMB and moved back to Arizona full time. It does have sales and income taxes, but it is so much cheaper to live. Good luck in Austin. It is getting a major tech community.

  • http://investorjunkie.com Investor Junkie

    Best of luck in Texas! Austin is a city my family is considering. NY has the same stupid laws and taxes. With the Internet we can live anywhere! Silly politicians don’t you know this?

    I agree about keeping politics out of the discussion but unfortunately the more our government gets involved in the economy the more politics are involved. On my blog when I do talk about politics it’s related to small business.

    Ron Paul, while isn’t perfect, IMHO is the best candidate we have out there. Unfortunately would be the oldest President. Unless the Senate get mostly Republican/Tea Party members I think he would have a tough time getting his ideas passed.

  • Darby

    California’s loss! This post is a great case study on the effects of talent drain in California. Just think of the many others who are leaving but not saying anything!

  • http://www.michaelphelpsworkout.com Craig McPherson

    Erica,

    You could always use an Australian subscriber to act as a broker for your Amazon sites until the move. :)

    Great post too, Spoken from the heart.

    Craig

  • Linda Locke

    Great post Erica. You nailed it. Too bad no one in Sacramento ever listens.

    Linda

  • http://randomthoughtsonlifeblog.com Jon Clayton

    I am from Austin, although it has been years since I lived there. But, based on what you said, Austin in probably the perfect choice in most, if not all respects…

  • DiegoDreamin’

    Of the places you are contemplating relocating too, only Washington, Texas and Tennessee seem viable. Alaska and Wyoming are fine if you want small town living, with horrible winters and don’t like people or a variety of services and leisure activities…San Diego is vastly superior to these two places in that category. Texas and Tennessee have some nice places but be ready for the second coming of culture shock upon leaving San Diego. Nevada, South Dakota and Florida don’t offer a good quality of life. Don’t know much about New Hampshire, but I couldn’t stomach the winters! You must enjoy a good income or have family all over the country to consider such geographically separated areas of the country.

  • http://www.calawreport.com John Corcoran

    Erica:

    I think you’re wrong about the fee to start a corporation. It’s just $100 to start a corporation, not $800. See here: http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/forms.htm#corp

    Besides, why do you want to form a corporation anyways? I usually advise my clients that it’s much better to form a LLC for a small business in California. A LLC is generally cheaper, easier to maintain with fewer formalities, and more flexible than a corporation.

    • Just Will

      It’s not the fee for formation, it’s the mandatory (minimum) $800 in corporate taxes every year.

    • http://dool.in/ Dave Doolin

      John, having founded a now-dissolved C Corp and a current owner of an LLC, I can assure you Erica is correct. The franchise fee is $800/yr. California also assesses, to some extent, unitary taxes.

      If CA wasn’t Pacific Rim, the state would be in poverty, and San Fran and LA would look a lot more like Detroit and Cleveland.

    • Debbie

      From the “Filing Guidelines” section of http://www.ftb.ca.gov/businesses/bus_structures/LLcompany.shtml :

      The LLC will be taxed at the corporate tax rate of 8.84 percent and will be subject to a minimum tax of $800.

  • http://erichansen.tv/ Eric

    Hey Erica,

    I consider myself very liberal, but I can’t agree more with the decision you made. CA’s tax and fee structure (as pointed out by the hiker that got a $475 fine), is really messed up. My film production company is based in Wyoming, which is very friendly to small business. Here it’s only $50/yr for a corporation. A friend who’s a freelance editor recently moved to CA and he just experienced this few hundred dollar fee hike you describe. Since he’s a one-person shop, this is a pretty big fee to absorb. I’ve been contemplating a move to LA for years, but the increased cost to run and base my business there will be significant; in both taxes and increased cost of living. Cali is such a beautiful place, it’s too bad their government can’t get their act together.

    Are you still traveling in your RV?

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      Yep, still traveling in it (part-time…every month or two we go out for a week.) Next trip is to Burning Man at the end of this month. We plan to drive it to Austin, as well.

      Right now I’m looking at a solar panel rig for it so we can be off the grid more with it (and it will double as a great place to get work done if a disaster hits or the electricity goes out at home!)

    • John

      You write “it’s too bad their government can’t get their act together.” You are mistaken. That’s what governments do – they don’t get their acts together.

      And that’s what liberalism does – create a big government that screws people! Liberalism fails every time its tried. :)

  • http://dailydividendinvestor.wordpress.com Neil

    Hey Erica -

    I’m totally with you. After a while, there’s only so much bureaucracy and taxes one can take – and CA definitely doesn’t make it easy on small biz. I look forward to following all of your adventures as you settle in to living and working in Austin.

    Best of luck!

    Neil

  • http://blog.asmartbear.com/ Jason Cohen

    You’re going to love Austin. Let me know when you’re ready to explore the startup scene and I’ll introduce you to a bunch of great folks.

    You might consider attending Capital Factory’s Demo Day this year — chance to meet many of them in person, plus see pitches from 15 local startups. Let me know and I’ll get you an invite (although if you don’t use email maybe we’ll have to DM on Twitter?)

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      Jason, you are one of the people I am MOST looking forward to meeting! Sure; send me an invite :)

  • http://www.benjaminkerensa.com Benjamin Kerensa

    I would be interested to know what states only make you pay a few dollars to run a corporation because every state I have lived in (CA, OR, ID, MN, NV) all charges several hundred dollars a year. As for income tax I would agree that California has a horrible income tax compared to most states but there are states that have much higher income tax brackets like Oregon which takes far more than California.

    Government in California does suck its very inefficient and constantly plagued with scandal and corruption but at the same time it is a choice state for some of the largest corporations in America and its not like they don’t enjoy saving money.

    • jr72023

      You said that, “Government in California does suck its very inefficient and constantly plagued with scandal and corruption but at the same time it is a choice state for some of the largest corporations in America…”

      You actually answered your own question.

  • http://crystalcore.net Mike Jr

    Erica, welcome to Texas! Glad to have you. Once you are here, you’ll probably never leave. ;-)

    • S.L.

      I concur, Mike! Erica will love it here! :)

  • http://www.whyyoumustblog.com SandyMc

    What a fascinating insight into life, politics and places in the USA. Thank you Erica.

    We live in Melbourne and have just downsized from our family home with a move afoot to a small cottage about 5 kilometres away (3 miles?) to an inner city suburb. The weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth that has gone on in the family has to be seen to be believed.

    And here you are up-sticking and going to a new state, new city, new laws and different prices with nary a backward glance. Fantastic.

    To be fair we were immigrants from Africa, so we already did one big move. But I love the conversation which shows what a mobile society you are in the States.

    Looking forward to your Step by Step business product. Good luck with the move.

  • http://www.geoffmcneely.com Geoff

    Erica,

    I lived in L.A. far too long though it’s been almost 10 years. We’ve been thinking about going back to the Bay Area but you pretty much woke me up to the current idiocracy in place there. Amazon tax? What an epic fail!

    I’ve been researching the so-called Cultural Creatives defined by Dr. Paul H. Ray in his 2000 book with the same name and what you’re describing (not left, not right, more progressive) he’s actually documented prior to the last election. It’s an interesting read. I’d wager that most of your readers (as well as Tim Ferriss’ and Ramit’s) would fall into what he calls the “New Progressives” (In front of big, emerging issues, Calling all new social movements, Emerging culture paradigm, Save the planet). https://www.wisdomuniversity.org/emerging-culture.htm at the bottom of the page has some links to his research.

    I think your comments about libertarian vs democrat vs republican are spot on though, and I think over the next decade we’ll learn of a different way to look at the world, politics included, that will be more in line with this “new progressive” wisdom based life choices rather than the old and busted way that our current government seems to cling to with the passion of idiots.

    Best of luck to you in Texas!
    Geoff

  • http://www.seanhills.com Sean H

    Welcome to Texas! I moved to Austin from my hometown Brooklyn three years ago and haven’t looked back since. Great people and small business environment.

  • http://www.personalprotectiondevices.biz Carlton Straeker

    You’ve made an excellent choice, Erica, by choosing Texas. It’s the only state that’s thriving despite of the bad economy since it has business friendly policies. If my family didn’t have close ties here in CA, we’d be moving to Texas too. Based on what Gerald Celente from Trends Research Institute has been saying, we’d be having an economic depression soon that’ll even be worse than the one in the 1930′s.

  • http://marginalizingmorons.blogspot.com/ CaptiousNut

    Unfortunately you moving, the right personal decision, won’t teach Californian pols any lessons. The state will just get worse as the incumbent idiots solidify their power. (This is what happened to Massachusetts over the years).

    When you have your own kids, and personally start teaching them to read, count, etc….then you’ll *get* education. My homeschooled son is already doing calculus, blogging, and reading 100+ pages a day. He’s six!

    http://old-john.blogspot.com/

  • http://reinventingerica.com/ Erica OGrady

    YAY! You’re coming my way ;) I expect frequent trips to Houston to visit!!!

    Hugs Beautiful.

  • michele grant

    Hi – I’m based in the UK, so looking at this blog and the comments on it is really interesting. Over here we think that the US has an entrepreneurial culture, that taxes are low and the state supports small businesses. Seems it is not as clear cut as that. Being a small country, the UK shares one tax system and there are various ways to set up a business to suit different circumstances. In the current recession businesses are calling for more government tax incentives for small businesses to help kick start the economy. We’re still waiting!

  • http://genealogytutorial.com Sandra

    Welcome to Texas!!

    We’re proud and arrogant about being Texans, but we’re friendly and fun!!!

    As I native Texan, I can tell you that Austin is fabulous. I left Texas, moved to Arizona for 21 years until the housing market tanked. Now I am back in Texas and soooo glad.

  • Mike

    I did what you are about to do 2 years ago and couldn’t be happier. Austin is a great town with nice people and a great business/start-up atmosphere. The Mexican food isn’t the same but besides that everything is better. Pro-Tip see if you can find some land with an AG exemption if you are going for the Exurbs.

  • http://www.29Diapers.com Laura K. Cowan

    Nope, sorry. You didn’t piss me off with any of that. Thanks for detailing your reasons, since our debate for the last couple of years has been when it is worth it to move TO the Bay Area. Good luck in Austin! My sisters love it there, but I’m still too into the dewy hills of Michigan or the beaches of Cali to make that jump. Keep us updated on your new product. I may be interested.

    Laura K. Cowan

  • http://dave-baldwin.com Dave Baldwin

    Erica, you’re a woman after my own heart. Sorry to hear about the government taxation Hell. We entrepreneurs need to form our own political party because the other two aren’t cutting it.

  • http://www.reemergence.com Franka Baly

    Kudos to you Erica for making such a good decision for you and your business! As a fellow Texan, I say welcome! I live in Houston and the one thing you will miss is the weather. Texas is HOT!!! But….cost of living is great and the people are wonderful!

    Safe travels. Can’t wait to hear more about your product later on this year.

  • http://www.moneyspruce.com/ Jeffrey Trull

    In Connecticut, we got cut off from Amazon Associates right before CA did for the same reasons. This is one battle the the state governments aren’t going to win. Hopefully the recognize that and repeal these stupid laws.

    Aside from that, taxes and cost of living are very expensive here (although CT isn’t nearly as awesome as CA). As someone just starting to earn income, I can imagine I’ll be right there with you when it comes to getting taxed to death. Good luck with your move!

  • http://www.workathomeprofiles.com greg cryns

    I moved to CA from Illinois four years ago. I love the GREEN of the midwest and I love the city of Chicago. I just returned from a Caribbean cruise (Bahamas). I’ve been to San Diego and live in the coastal region of CA.

    I loved my short visit to Austin a few years ago.

    But, I will stay put in CA. Frankly, I think it is unwise to pick up and move for money only.

    greg

  • http://richkent.com/ Rich Kent

    Hi Erica – You’ve definitely made a good decision. My wife and I have also been California Residents for just over 12 years, and we are also saying goodbye to the state for many of the same reasons.

    Having a location-independent business is key, and we’re planning to make our new state of residence either Wyoming or South Dakota – although we won’t actually live in the state much. In fact, we’ve been traveling so much that I’ve spent less than 2 weeks in California over the past year!

    At any rate, it’s nice to see someone else on the same wavelength, and I couldn’t agree more with your feelings about Ron Paul and politics in general. Good luck with your move to Austin!

    • Scott Brady

      South Dakota would love to have you. Sounds like the Black Hills area might be worth looking into.

  • Walter

    Erica:

    A word on evolution. There are very good scientific debates on evolution and it is real science that explains real problems with the theory. Most people who believe and accept the theory of evolution cannot actually explain it and certainly fail at explaining the mechanism for it. Almost none can give me an argument against it and if they can’t then they don’t have to understand how evolution works or why they believe it.

    • http://none Cal Ven

      Hi Walter:

      I believe GOD produced everything around us. I always ask the evolution folks, what came first…they can never answer, “what came first.” But, I have some great evidence that GOD exists and invented everything. I ask: Who is smart enough to invent the exact “arm-hand” length that allow us to wipe our butts after a bowel movement? God is that who! Just look at the human body. Why do humans have hemorrhoids….capillaries…and the many, many functions of the body?

      Look out at nature. Aren’t you amazed at things that we cannot seem to understand? GOD understands.

      I have friends who say, they want proof that GOD exists. I then say, I want proof that man-made global warming exists. Look at stories, papers on the subject of global warming, climate change and there are the usual vague buzz words: maybe, could be, etc…

      Thanks for listening.

  • http://www.eternaleden.etsy.com Elizabeth Kay

    I was born and raised in California and a piece of my heart will always be there. BUT California voters are stone cold idiots and consistently elect more stone cold idiots who pass stone cold idiotic legislation. I don’t know how the average person can even afford to live there anymore, much less do business there. I think you’ve made a wise decision Erica. Best of luck to you.

  • http://BLISSBOMBED.com Stephanie St.Claire

    I’m so happy for you Erica! Enjoy Austin! :) )

    I grew up in So Cal and moved to NYC two years ago. For a lot of reasons, I would never move back…especially being a business owner myself. The taxes and traffic are ridiculous!

  • http://www.davidrisley.com David Risley

    It seems there are many liberal-types in these comments who agree with you, Erica. I find that rather odd. Liberals, has it not dawned on you that the Obama administration (which I assume many of you voted for) is attempting to run the country the same way that California has?

    If its social issues that cause people to vote Democrat despite bringing in these horrible fiscal policies, then why not consider Libertarian? Vote third party. I’m not fan of the Repubs either because I think they’re just a slightly slower train to the same hell. But, we don’t need the entire US being run like California, otherwise we’ll have entrepreneurs figuring out where to move out of the country, not just to another state.

    OK, I guess I just “went there”. Time to get back to work. ;-)

    • http://www.FoodforThin.com Tanuja Paruchuri

      David – totally agree! I actually made the mistake of voting for Obama in 2008, but then I found out what a Libertarian was in 2009 – someone who believes in fiscal conservatism and social liberalism and I basically always felt like that…I just thought that social policies were more important than fiscal ones. Then I started earning a paycheck and realized that about 40%+ of my income was going in taxes. No one can really sustain that kind of taxation when your salary and inflation aren’t going up at the same rate. Anyway, I wholeheartedly encourage everyone to consider another option in 2012…I am a Libertarian and if you live in Maryland, we have lots of Libertarians on the ballot here and lots across the country. Anyone who wants to join us, feel free to email me at votevohra@gmail.com and I’d be happy to explain more or just have your support. Also check out http://www.VoteVohra.com for more information on the Libertarian stance on various policies.

      All the best,
      Tanuja

  • http://afford-anything.com Paula @ AffordAnything.org

    Congratulations on your move and on your location-independent lifestyle that enabled the move. One question: since TX lacks both corporate and state income tax, I presume they make up the income some other way — perhaps through property taxes or sales taxes. When all is said and done, I’d be interested in seeing how much you’re paying in ALL taxes (sales, property, income) in Texas vs. California. Could be an interesting discussion for a future post.

    By the way, you should also consider moving (or at least taking an extended visit) to Atlanta — great real estate prices, low taxes, fantastic weather, growing tech sector. Plus we could really use an entrepreneurial influence and role model like you!!

  • http://www.businessmoneytoday.com/ Phanio

    I would suggest that you follow all the other businesses leaving California and come to Texas. We are very business friendly, have great beaches and great weather and we always make time to hang out.

  • http://www.toddbrannan.com/ Todd

    Welcome to Texas Erica. I live in San Antonio but travel to Austin for Seminars. Hope to come to one of yours.

  • http://www.uhichicago.com Amelia

    Erica:

    I love your post and support you in your move! And, your last paragraph doesn’t make my head spin. I’m with you. – Amelia

  • http://www.baxie404.com Ashley Baxter

    Texas can’t wait to have you! As a native, I may be a little biased, but I think you made a good choice :-) Hope to see you at an event or two in the spring!

  • http://www.FoodforThin.com Tanuja Paruchuri

    Hi Erica, you made my day when I woke up to this email! I’ve been keeping up with your blog and I’m thrilled you wrote about politics from the perspective of a small business owner. I am Libertarian too! My boyfriend and I are very involved in Libertarian politics here in Washington DC. I can tell you, I grew up in Houston, went to school in Austin, lived in Orange County and now in DC. Austin and DC have been my two favorite places to live. I hope you love it there as much as I did and I wholly agree with you on the hard time states are giving not only to small businesses, but all businesses because they can’t figure out how to spend less and balance their budgets. Sadly, the federal government seems to be falling down a rabbit hole of debt and unending taxing as well. I believe people should vote on economics and not on social issues, because frankly, I don’t think the government should have any say in our private lives as long as we’re not hurting anyone else (spoken like a true Libertarian :-) ). I too am considering a move back to Texas, but with my love of Libertarian politics, it might be difficult to leave. My boyfriend and I have this fantasy of moving to an island and turning it into a great nation like the US once was (think Atlas Shrugged)…if we ever end up doing that, I’ll email you and you should come along to help us build it! Best of luck and I know you’ll love Austin!

    • http://www.brianfryer.com brian

      Please do! This is a fantasy of mine as well :)

    • http://Www.commandmedia.net Aaron

      This “great island nation” has already been created and it’s called Singapore. :)

  • http://www.millionthmonkeyfoods.com Noel

    I applaud your choices. Here in Colorado, they passed the stupid “Nexxus Laws” as well. Only problem is that I can’t afford to move elsewhere out of state as much as I want to. Some day soon, that will happen. I love where I live but agree with you that government is making it hard. Hell, it’s even illegal to capture rain water to water your garden here. How pathetic is that?!

  • Jeff

    You are right that the politics suck here and California can drain you on taxes, but you can’t get the same lifestyle there as here. I base my choices off lifestyle, not just about money. You only live once, so I choose where it makes me the most happy. You won’t beat the weather here either. This is also a very outdoors activity state, if that is what you like. Get ready for some intense heat and humidity. Austin is an awesome city though.

    For Valerie.

    And if you haven’t lived here in California or even been here, then please do not judge and don’t even try to compare Florida to California. This shows how ignorant you are.

    • http://www.brianfryer.com brian

      I’ve in a Cali my entire life, Jeff, and have similar feelings about this place. But, with the money we’ll be saving by moving out of state, we can live anywhere in the world we want to for the hottest part of Austin’s summer.

      We can come back to California, head over to Thailand or the Phillipines, spend some time in Europe.

      It’s very true that “you only live [this life] once”. And for me, I’m looking forward to seeing more of this wonderful world :)

  • http://www.ponderingmoney.com Rick Francis

    I think you are making a good choice- I left the bay area for Austin TX 12 years ago and I don’t regret it. The weather isn’t as nice but you won’t really have to deal with snow and the cost of living is a lot less. Since you aren’t tied to any particular location I would suggest you rent for a while and get to know the area.

    Check out some of the suburbs- such as Round Rock TX as you will pay a lot less for housing the further out you go from the city. We are on the north edge of the city limits and our house was about half of what a smaller house in central Austin would have cost. We’re only about 30 min from downtown so that isn’t a huge barrier for going into the city when we want to.

    -Rick Francis

  • http://www.serialstartups.com Naomi

    $800 corporation fee! Wow!

  • http://www.christine.biz Christine

    And you will love Austin just as much as San Diego. I loved living there! The restaurants, night life, the people… especially great because the university is there…great minds. Enjoy! And best in your forward journey. ;)

  • http://americaroadtrip.net Bill

    I object to one thing you said. Believing in evolution is not a sign of intelligence. It is a only sign that you don’t believe in intelligent design. You are indeed a bright girl, but even the brightest don’t know everything. Good luck in Austin. I love both San Diego and Austin. But then I’m just a road tripper. I live in beautiful Mississippi because we are a business friendly state.

  • http://www.thenichethinktank.com/how-to-form-an-llc-and-get-your-amazon-associates-account-reinstated/ Larry

    Well, the game isn’t over, and Jerry Brown won’t be in office forever. When people give up, like you, it’s time to call it quits, the game is already lost. I love So Cal. I’ve been here all my life. I pay for the weather, the surf and the beautiful sites. I’m ok with that. San Diego truly is America’s finest city. I’ll stay and pay and make more money and get more tax shelters or deductions if that’s what I need to do to cut my losses. But if you can’t find a reason to stay, then off to Austin you go. Tell the Reverend Horton Heat I said howdy…good luck.

  • http://dool.in/ Dave Doolin

    I lived in Austin for a few years in the mid-80s. Nice, really nice. I’d live there again. I’d consider going back to Knoxville as well, which is a *highly* underrated city for quality of life.

  • Justin

    Erica,

    You are not the only one to leave California because of the high taxes and the state being unfriendly to business. U ahve had many firends tell me they have left because of the high taxes and high unemployment rate.

    I think Texa isa great move, they have a balanced budget and are very busienss firendly and the rest of the coutnry culd leanr a lesson form Texas. If had anyhting to say to my state or washignton it would be get out of small buinesses way and let us hire poeple and grow.

  • http:/www.harmmonicthought.com Chuck Pennington

    Hey Erica,

    Ya didn’t piss me off…Congratulations on your move. Welcome to the hill country. Just moved here recently myself. If you want to discuss the different area around Austin I love to talk. See ya soon!

  • Kelley Smoot Garrett

    Welcome to Austin Erica! You’ll love it and fit right in. If you need help getting oriented, or just want someone to visit with who’s in agreement with you about the political mess, or just need to run some ideas against someone with a long local Austin background, feel free to drop me a line. I’d be happy to help you get started. Love & light, Kelley

  • http://www.bighitcopy.com Nigel

    You know – nothing stirs up a good response like controversy!
    Good post and yes – I would agree with your ‘California Assessment’….I live in Idaho, a VERY business friendly state… and we are seeing MANY California ‘refugees’ here. Even some major companies who are relocating large amounts of infrastructure in an effort to find a more business friendly location. I know you are looking for something in the sunbelt, so my vote goes to Florida…very business friendly, beautiful beaches and TONS of friendly people.

    Good luck with this new chapter in your life!

    Nigel

  • http://www.internetbusiness.co Lynn

    Hello Erica,
    I agree with you on the frustration with running a business in California. You have to love your business very much to make it work here. I have lived in Texas, California, and Indiana. I will have to say California is where I live now and I could not even think about moving back to Texas for any reason after living in California. But that is just me and I have had different experiences than most. After you leave California it’ll hard to be able to afford to come back even if you get home sick. Maybe you should take a long vacation to Texas before making the big commitment. If I was in your situation with no ties or commitments and a internet business I would try a few different countries. I have lived in a few places that were very inexpensive and interesting like the Philippines.
    So whatever your decision, enjoy life and don’t make money your primary reason to make life style changes. Keep your life’s passion in focus.
    Take care,
    Lynn

  • Liz

    My husband and I moved to Austin from LA almost 2 years ago. I love it here in Austin. It does get hot as Jeff mentioned but not humid. It’s more of a dry heat. I prefer that over humidity personally.

    I was surprised when I heard about Amazon dropping all CA businesses, however I think it was a good business action for them.

    I liked that I had the opportunity to live in LA but I’m glad we moved. Austin in a bit slower paced than LA and suits us better. I hope your move goes well!

  • http://www.fitnessreloaded.com Maria

    I just came across this article from 2009: http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/california-78772-states-tax.html

    I loved this excerpt: “And if you think these high tax/regulation/union friendly states are lower on other taxes, think again. Taxing and spending are like alcoholism: once started, they never end.”

    Best of luck in TX!

  • David B.

    Best of luck on your move. I think that you speak for a lot of CA small business owners. I hope that somehow our politicians wake up and realized they have killed the golden goose!

    Btw, you wrote: “I love Ron Paul as a politician, but I don’t understand how someone so obviously brilliant doesn’t believe in evolution….”
    Don’t let that one fact about Ron Paul dissuade you. There are a goodly number of smart people that have serious questions about evolution. Here’s an example of very smart chap that doesn’t believe evolution and has quite a lengthy list of academic credentials: Dr. Henry Schaefer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_F._Schaefer,_III

    Best of luck in your move!

  • x

    Great decision I was born and raised in Texas save for a few years in Zurich and Austin is one of the best cities in the United states.

    About Dr. Ron Paul he is probably the best politician in the country he still has strong religious convictions hence his “strange” beliefs. But we must all realize he doesn’t want or expect us to believe what he does. Ron Paul is all about freedom and liberty.

  • Ron

    Welcome to Texas, it’s not the greatest place to live but much better than California as far as business goes. Just like everywhere else, their are some great people and not so great people here in Texas. Enjoy the ride!

  • http://undercoverfeminist.com K00kyKelly

    I agree that CA’s revenue collection and spending are severely screwed up. CA’s proposition system and specifically Prop 13 has backed the politicians into a fiscal corner. A little known effect of Prop 13 requires a “supermajority” of two-thirds vote in the state legislature for any tax increase. Meanwhile spending increases can be passed by a simple majority. With that structure is it any wonder that CA spends more than it brings in with revenue? Add the handicap of being unable to effectively raise property taxes (also due to Prop 13) and you get super high fees in all kinds of random areas b/c that is what they can squeeze through.

    Until Prop 13 and the proposition system in general is addressed things will keep going downhill fiscally. Just google “CA proposition system” for a number of arguments as to how it is crippling the state.

    • jpk112

      You have to be kidding me, “Prop 13 is our problem in California.” So we should repeal it and make it easier to raise taxes? Please this is why it scares me when I hear people saying they are leaving Cali for other states, eventually they will vote and turn those other states into smaller versions of Cali. California is screwed up for one reason and one reason alone it is the voters fault because they keep electing the same politicians over and over again. As to me, I am stuck in California due to the business which I run and Thank God have been able to run is successfully for my employees and their families. But everyday I have to put up with the petty bureaucracies that our enlighten state – voters have created.

    • Jo

      Before Prop 13 we could count on big property taxes every year….we had to pass those increases on to the tenants in the small rental we had….after prop 13 we didn’t have to raise the rents yearly and were able to keep the stable for quite a few years…we were able to stay in our home. Pre-prop 13 those on fixed income could count on the taxes eating away at their income as assessments went up in step with the reassessed value of their house. Now a person who owns property knows how much his/her property can go up and can budget accordingly…prop 13 was one of the good things that happened in CA…hated to give that up but moved elsewhere and life is much better (I am a second generation Californian and my children are third generation…one reluctantly left the state but now says it was worth it with a much better quality of life and more money in his pocket…the other would move in a minute but he’s in the film business…as movies & TV moves more and more out of state he looks forward to leaving too)

    • John

      You write “Prop 13 has backed the politicians into a fiscal corner.” So true, because liberal politicians (who highjacked the Democrat party) can’t raise taxes on homeowners to pay their cronies – government employee unions (teachers, California prison guard, municipal and state employees and their union thugs)! Proposition 13 was passed by the most democratic means – the popular referendum (not back room deals in Sacramento). It actually caps your real property taxes. Now that’s something the libs can’t allow, can they?

      Government employee unions and their lackeys, the liberal politicians – thank you for ruining California.

  • annie

    Bravo! I think you’re not alone in this, and California will miss small business owners like you and will hopefully turn around.

  • http://vanessaduplessie.com VaNessa Duplessie

    Erica,
    I love this post. I was born and raised in the Bay Area and stayed until I was 26. I left CA 14 years ago and moved to the Northwest looking for greener pastures. I have been in WA state for the last 11 years and while not everything is rosy, we do like the no income tax structure. Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind paying taxes to support critical infrastructure but as a small business many states make it hard to do business. Hubby and I are both self-employed with our respective businesses which gives us a double whammy. I’m sorry you’re not heading to WA :-) and wish you well in Austin.

    BTW, I have many friends who were not happy with the Amazon shut down in CA and so far so good her in WA, lest I jinx myself. And I agree…good for Amazon. If politicians want more revenue they need to learn not to bite off their nose to spite their face.
    Best, VaNessa

  • Lelani

    We lived in Houston for several years and loved it. Austin is awesome–spent a lot of time there. You will love it! Someone mentioned property tax: yes, it’s high but I did notice it varied by area so maybe you’ll find the right fit if you decide to buy. Good luck!!!

  • http://budgetsarethenewblack.com/ Jolyn

    LOVED the details in this post! I actually used it to teach my 15yo a thing or two about taxes and politics – great discussion! And I don’t even begrudge you your belief in evolution as you’ve obviously just been schooled in that (as everyone is with a brick and mortar education) and have never really studied it for yourself. (Be honest- have you?) Good luck and enjoy Austin! I’ve heard the music scene there is AMAZING. Still waiting to experience it personally… :)

  • http://www.turnpassiontoprofits.com Cheryl Hill

    Hi Erica,
    Thanks for your feisty passion.
    The world is going thru big time growing pains eh!
    Heard this morning they are thinking of cancelling the Olympic Games because London has such bad riots. Good God!
    As I sit here I feel a gentle loving enfolding of our precious planet and hope that sense will prevail at the end of the day.
    I am glad you shared the Amazon story and am thankful those with the power like Amazon, don’t bend to the long arm of ever more taxes. And that people like ourselves have the guts to get out there and create businesses.
    Can’t wait for your new business release as I have observed that you are keen to serve start up people – these are the types of people I also serve and I think more trustworthy programs are needed on the net – not just the multi 1,000′s stuff or fluff and bubble.
    Hope your move is a breath of fresh air for you guys,
    Cheryl
    p.s. did you ever update us on your ‘dealing with email’ story?

  • http://www.storymashup.org/small-business-seo-services/ Neil

    I too live in San Diego and I thought I was the only one just feeling squeezed by the state. From overzealous meter maids to cops too eager to give tickets because they need to raise cash for the state. No one is talking about moving overseas. What about places like Australia? This whole tax system, both state and federal needs to be fixed. Can someone please comment on having consumption taxes instead of income taxes. My idea would be to pay all taxes during the sales process and that’s it. No headache and hassles filling out tax forms at year end. Your blog is bookmarked. Would love to hear more about your adventures of the move and getting settled in Austin.

    • OldJoe

      Check out “Fair Taxes” by a self-confessed ‘loud mouth’, who is a talk show radio host in Atlanta. Besides being loud and opinionated. he is the front man for a lot of smart and concerned people who have spent a lot of time and money studying the question. IIRC, they even have all of the necessary legislative language written up that will be necessary to make it happen. If we (the voters) have enough grit and determination to make it happen, it will not hurt too much. The observation that I value the most is that the “Fair Tax” has great potential to go a long way toward wiping out ‘corruption’ in DC.
      P.S. be sure to get the volume, in a series of pubs, that is written as a citizen’s summary.

  • http://www.poppermostcommunications.com Poppermost Communications

    Well, while I respect your decision and your reasons for the move, you kinda lost me (and disappointed me) with all the nasty name-calling. That just seemed out of character for you, and somewhat misplaced. Get mad at the legislation, yeah sure, but think about what got CA into the dregs in the first place–previous administrations surely set the state up for failure, did they not?

  • Morgan Landry

    Thanks for the thumbs up to Texas. If you ever make a stop to the D/FW area, send me a PM on Facebook and I can give you a tour of Cowtown.

  • http://www.SumerfordMarketingSolutions.com Kenneth Sumerford

    Erica,

    You will like Texas a lot. I am a Republican and a conservative but I voted against GW Bush on his second pres run. I’m a Christian and believe in both evolution and intelligent design.

    Texas is pro-business! My wife and I have lived in north Texas for about 25 years. Previously we lived in Illinois for 12 years. Welcome to Texas!

  • http://blognames.net Mari

    Great post. You have given me something to think about. It was my hope/desire to move to California (because of the weather) somewhere in the near future. Now, I may have to think a little bit more about it since you bring up valid points. Thanks.

  • Citizen Jerry

    Erica,

    Good to see you getting wise over the nightmare that is California. Texas is much more business friendly.

    I’ll give you a mulligan on your post, but you’re right (and several other posters are proving it) that you should never discuss politics when your business is business. It only honks off half your audience.

    Business 101: If you insult your customers and their beliefs, they probably won’t do business with you again. Too bad most denizens in Hollywood haven’t figured that one out.

    All the best to you in the Lone Star State.

  • Jeff

    Re: @ Author: Liz

    Comment:
    My husband and I moved to Austin from LA almost 2 years ago. I love it here in Austin. It does get hot as Jeff mentioned but not humid. It’s more of a dry heat. I prefer that over humidity personally.

    This just is not true, you need to check the weather reports more. I use to live there, now it doesn’t get as humid as San Antonio, but to say that it doesn’t get humid is a flat out lie. It still gets humid there. When its not as hot, it can me more humid then when its really hot. when you get the breeze that blows in from the Gulf, it can get quite humid and sticky.

  • http://wwwprivaterevolutions.com kelley

    that? was the best post i’ve read in a while. authentic. passionate. smart chick. moving to austin. traveling the world soon. very cool.

  • http://www.seanscarpetcare.com Sean

    LOL…I was always happy for you that you sold your business for $1 million, but I am from NorCal, so I know that isn’t much money to buy a house, especially in San Jo. I’m from Marin to be specific.

    Yaa, Cali sucks for soo many reasons. The state wants to put you out of business. Every year I go back and think more and more I am happy I moved. I still love the Bay Area though…Go 9′ers!!!

    Best wishes on your new adventures and your new home.

  • http://ryangoesabroad.com Ryan

    I think this is a really good business / entrepreneurial / life move. What I don’t understand is why more people don’t realize that the same thing happening in California (people leaving the state) and in New York (remarkable population decline) will happen and is happening nationwide as the US Govt is run like those states. High govt spending, taxes, regulations, and fees cause mass exodus (and mass extinction…) of businesses, and cause massive public debt. Savvy people will often just up and leave because they own their own lives, and don’t believe any single government should dictate their life. Alas, there are fewer and fewer savvy people in the world, but I am delighted to have read this post. Kudos to you, Erica.

    (As a side note, if Ron Paul is “brilliant” but doesn’t believe in macro-evolution, might we suppose that he has investigated the issue somewhat and might actually have credible reasons to doubt?)

  • http://www.tryingtotri.com Kris

    A well thought out decision, and you are fortunate that your business is flexible enough you can move anywhere you choose.

    Good luck in Austin!

  • Joy

    Bravo Erica, you and I have similiar beliefs. I am in Houston, Texas is a good place for business, good luck to you!

  • http://www.woodswalkertalk.com Debra

    Erica,
    You’ll enjoy Austin, just as you suspect. I moved here last year from Michigan and love the sunshine.
    You will want to keep an eye on the debate Amazon and Texas have had going on here if the affiliate issue is really key for you.
    BTW, we sat at the same table last year at Jeff Walker’s PLF conference in Scottsdale. Funny how small the world is!

  • http://outlanderblog.wordpress.com/ Nicole

    How funny. My plan is to finish grad school in Nor Cal and then move to Austin. One of my oldest and dearest friends lives there and she loves it.
    In the interest of keeping Austin such a happy place to move, I’m going to start telling people that it sucks. ;)

  • http://crispe.org/blog Rob Collins

    Erica, Jerry Brown should be sucking your clit to keep you here in California. Instead he and the other libtards think if they tax out all the business people then their would be more free stuffs for them to share. J. Paul Getty’s quote that he would rather get “1% of one man than a 100% of a man” rings true. The state is causing more people to drop out and choose not to work or move out of state to a state that is not nickel and diming you out of everything you earn.

    I find it funny that these people feel good about living off the system and not work or earn income because we are all paying for them. People need to wake up and stop supporting the beast.

    CALIFORNIA =
    HIGH PRICES
    HIGH PRICES
    HIGH CRIME
    HIGH WELFARE
    HIGH UTILITIES
    NO AFFORDABLE HOMES
    NO ABILITY TO KEEP WHAT YOU EARN TO SUPPORT YOURSELF
    = = INSANITY = =

    Thanks for leaving California and not supporting the beast. California will regret they did not suck your clit to keep you here. You have some brass balls for having to courage to leave this sinkhole before everything falls in.

  • http://www.optimalhealthbridge.com/protocol Garey Simmons

    Right on, right on!. Erica, the only part where you lost me was bashing Republicans. Now, we can bash Republicans all we want, but it was the freshman class of Republicans that fought long and hard against the Federal Blank Check Mr. Obama bin Biden wanted. That being said,

    Republicans for the most part are kinda spineless and weak and should have stuck to their cut, cap, balance. So let’s bash’m for being spineless. That’s ok. As a newly minted Libertarian, know this, there are only a few things the Federal Govt is entitled to do: Borders, Common Defense, Inter-state commerce and deliver the damn mail! (amazon packages)

    The Fall of the Roman Empire has many lessons for modern day America. Too big for their britches and the harder they fall. I hate doomsday theorists almost as much as free spending pork barrel politicians. so I hope i am wrong, but the end is near!

  • http://www.chanclas.com.mx Andrea

    It is somehow sad that you had to move because of tax issues. Sometimes the goverment do stupid things ike this and there is no other way. On the other side, you’re very fortunate to have an online bussines that you can work from anywhere in the world!

    Good luck moving to Austin!

  • http://www.hopetackaberry.com Hope

    Welcome to Austin! It is a GREAT home base and your dollar will go far…well farther. If the Amazon tax thing didn’t go through during this year’s legislature, you have another year and half before you will have to worry with it again. They meet every other year, so the next will be in 2013.
    Shine your light!
    Hope

  • Owen Rubin

    This is a perfect case of the grass is always greener. Good luck with Texas, Austin is a beautiful city, but damn it gets hot and humid there. BTW, if you checked, Amazon has stopped in many states now, not just California, so be sure you pick one that still has Amazon associates (for now). And expect many to follow CA soon.

    And as much as you believe Meg was a good choice, Meg would have been the worst thing to happen to this state in a long time. A state cannot be run like a business, and thinking that way is short sighted and lacks understanding of how a government runs. Meg would have found this out the hard way, and been very ineffective (IMO), but that is a discussion for another time.

    I wish you good luck. Let us know when you move again!

    • Kev

      Owen, I’d be very interested in knowing why you believe a state cannot be run like a business. The only thing that I can think of is that government has too many “non-paying customers” to be run in that manner…and that’s one of the reasons that both the federal government and states like California are in trouble in the first place! Politicians have made promises they can’t keep by offering way too many people something for nothing in exchange for votes, and, sadly, way too many people have latched onto that, to the point where it’s unsustainable.

      I’m all for a limited safety net for the most vulnerable among us, but government should rarely be the avenue of first resort for someone in a crisis; at best it should be #4, behind family, friends and church or private charity. And the current parasite class needs to get up off its collective duff and get to work.

      Erica, please allow one more Texan to welcome you here shortly!

  • Heath

    Erica – good luck with your move to Austin; my only caution is to keep your expectations in check. Austin has many great things going for it, and all the bells and whistles *look* really great the first 4-5 years living here…but then it starts to wear thin. I’ve been here 11 years, and am pretty full ready to leave. Texans *are* very friendly to strangers, just not each other (e.g. treatment of native Latino population). Austin is an environmental paragon (e.g. we’re building a freakish F1 track on the backs of a sweetheart deal made by the State Comptroller and Gov’s office–and the city/county had it forced down its throat without so much as a scintilla of public input). Austin and Texas loves us some higher education that helps drive entrepreneurism (e.g. an inadequate state property/margins tax scam, I mean scheme, has empowered seething reactionary political pundits to begin the dismantling of Tier 1 research universities, as evidenced in the draconian budget cuts to higher education at a time when more and more HS graduates are clamoring to attend college). And of course we love our public servants (e.g. tens of thousands of elementary, MS, and HS teachers who “make too much money on the back of taxpayers” losing their jobs despite the wholesale expectation among our ill-educated tax-paying population that public schools should be a dumping ground for kids for up to 10 hours a day). Maybe you’ll be lucky enough to live in a part of Austin whose congressional district doesn’t run to the Mexican border–400 miles away–in a swath only 10 miles wide, but which is designed to ensure that a rural social conservative always represents you. Hopefully you’ll make enough money as an entrepreneur to have your political voice heard, because even more so than Illinois, Florida, or New York, money with many zeros behind is the only acceptable political speech here. I do not doubt that you will prosper more here than in CA, but please do yourself a favor and keep your expectations in check. Good luck!

    • Cap’n Dan

      You need to move to California – you’d be much happier there.

  • http://www.travelfromthetriangle.com Cat

    Girl, you rock! Way to lay it out there. I, unfortunately, feel your pain on many of your points. I may not always agree with you but I definitely respect your well thought out opinions and confidence to act on them!

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    Welcome to Austin (soon), Erica!

    I moved here last November form NJ to get away from crazy taxes and bad weather, in exchange for a friendlier business environment, nice people, great weather, big community of entrepreneurs, etc.

    I wish I made the move years ago.

    Hope to see you at our monthly affiliate marketing meetups!

  • http://keithbrown.com/ Keith Brown

    Welcome to Texas! Although it’s pretty hot here right now, with all the money you’ll be saving you can afford to crank your A/C down to 70 year round.

  • http://seobrien.com Paul O’Brien

    Brilliant post! I wrote something similar just a few weeks ago and made a strikingly similar series of changes in my life. With one exception, we considered but skipped San Diego for Austin!

    You’re going to love it here! Drop a line when you land.

    Oh, here’s my take: http://steinerranchpost.com/a-prius-in-austin-tx/

  • http://www.performancemarketingassociation.com Rebecca Madigan

    Passing these laws have consequences. Unfortunately, California legislators didn’t learn from the other states that passed affiliate nexus tax laws and saw a dramatic exodus of small businesses (to say nothing of no new sales tax money collected, and loss of income tax).

    There’s a repeal underway in California, we need to collect 500,000 signatures (California voters only) and the law will be suspended and put on the June 2012 ballot.

    If you’re a California voter, you can request a petition here:

    http://getbackinbusiness.org/

    (I know, perhaps a lot of money could be saved if they accepted electronic signatures – but, alas, not yet)

  • Walter Matthews

    Congratulations Erica on your wise decision! You will love Texas.

    I too was from CA. I grew up two hours north-east of LA, went to college in San Diego, and then worked my first job out of school in the LA area (San Fernando Valley). Last year my wife and I moved our family to Michigan. It was a tough choice for me and my wife to leave as both of our families live in southern California but we are glad we made it.

    I was a great tax-payer to the state of CA. I made roughly six-figures and have the potential for significant salary growth. My taxes probably supported numerous low-income families. But the cost of living was so high and employment opportunities so scarce we decided to move out of state with the possibility of returning. Having experienced living outside of CA, I can’t believe how much better life is. I am truly happy no longer being in CA and enjoy the extra $10,000 I save in taxes each year that can now be used for things like family vacations and other memorable experiences.

    Good luck and God bless.

  • http://schaafpc.com Brook Schaaf

    Erica, I moved from Los Angeles to Austin earlier this year and it’s been great. A wonderful city with a vibrant affiliate community. A warm welcome to Texas to you!

  • Zach

    Good luck with your move, Erica. If you feel Austin’s where you need to be, go for it. Just remember that California is where you made your first million.

    • SoCal Stoli

      …for which the State decided she needed to be PUNISHED, rather than allow to enjoy the REWARDS she had earned.

      Thus, she – and her million – goes away to greener pastures!

  • Jan

    Well all I can say is. . .what took you so long? The country of Texas is awesome …hot or not. Though some would give their right eye to live in San Diego, I’d just as soon visit when I get the itch …the cost of living is far too high a price to pay in all respects. As far as politics go…I’m not sure one party is as good as another these days. I’d like to see the HOUSE cleaned out and replaced with some fresh, business-types running things. People that actually have to deal with money issues in order to be able to survive.

  • jb

    RATS! For those of us still stuck in CA, seeing another smart brain/voter running does bring pause. What hope for us voters NOW?Elections are doomed to crazier insanity…
    I do honor your reasons, though.
    Great rant. Sorta therapeutic to just know someone else is saying something you can respond to with a “YUP! Deplorable, but true!”
    May you thrive even more, dear Erica.

  • http://www.saratogainvestors.com clearfund

    CONGRATULATIONS! We escaped California 3 weeks ago for the hills, sunshine, and peace of northern Colorado…Fort Collins to be exact. Have NO buyer’s regrets, and home prices are about 50% of north county san diego for a comparable school.

    We all cheered when we crossed the state line for the last time as residents and brought our cash, income, and taxes with us.

    ENJOY!!!

  • Evan

    Having lived in both California and Texas for over a decade each, I’ll definitely take Texas. Yeah, there’s still problems here but I’ll take the deliberately restricted government (we’re still using the rather restrictive state constitution put in place just after Reconstruction) over California’s (seemingly) eternally-in-session legislature. For the record, I agree with you about San Diego, if there’s one place in California I might could accept living, that would be it; but you’d really have to cross my palm with silver to get me to move there.

    “American by birth, Texan by choice!”

  • Cap’n Dan

    I too have trouble with the republican/democrat label thing. Call yourself a libertarian if you like, but what you really are is an American. Congratulations on the move.

  • chip

    I’m self-employed with two businesses. My wife and I were seriously considering a move to San Francisco several years ago but the slow train wreck of California’s fiscal problems has killed that idea. One of our businesses is in Asia. Three year tax holiday when you start, top marginal rate of 17% and almost no paperwork to speak of. Surprise, the economy is booming and attracting the best and brightest.

    As for politics, agree with poster above. GOP is slightly less insane on spending than DEM, particularly after the last Congressional election, but Libertarian is way to go. And you really need to read the paper with the BS filter turned on max. For example the constant nonsense about the nefariously right wing Koch brothers. They’re libertarians, and as such support drug legalization and supported politicians in favour of gay marriage.

  • Jo

    love the blog. I left California a few years ago and made my home in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico to save money (and have a view of Bandaras Bay…can walk to the beach if I don’t feel like swimming in my condo’s pool….life is great here…my sister is leaving California for Texas…her sister-in-law has moved to Texas also…amazing that Texas roads are great…not with pot holes like we had in California

  • George

    Erica-

    Welcome to Austin! It’s a really special place and it warms the cockles of my heart to see people with vision and drive moving here. I only ask one teeny little boon–please let Texas remain Texas and realize that many of the things Heath is complaining about above (and putting in the worst possible light) are major reasons why Texas is vibrant and growing while California is heading off a cliff. It is a GOOD thing, for example, that Austin and Texas lack the layers of bureaucracy that would prevent the new Formula 1 track from being built as quickly and efficiently as it is. It is a GOOD thing that the state is willing to live within its budget, even if it means painful layoffs. The tragedy of California is that people disassociated reality from dreams–that’s an attitude that needs to stay in Cali!

  • Vesparado

    Where to go is such an individual thing, but for what its worth: we moved to Reno from a house on the beach in Oceanside in 2003 because we could see even back then that things were only going to get worse in Calif. Not only have we never regretted the move but continue to love Reno/Nevada more and more. Helps to really like outdoors stuff (house to chair lift in ~45 mins., about the same for river fun, etc. etc.), although there is a university, a JC and lots of entertainment besides gambling.

  • Calvin Dodge

    Welcome to Texas, Erica, from someone who beat you here by 2 months!

    I have just one request – don’t support any statists in your district, regardless of their claimed party affiliation (Joe Straus being a prime example of a statist Republican).

  • Franko

    Its interesting that, the higher the state income tax, the higher the spending deficit. It gives the lie to the fairness argument. In fact, the more they take, the more they “need”, and the more they overspend. I wish the federal gov’t would switch to a property tax. Then maybe we would get some sanity in DC.

  • Ver

    Company that I do consultant work for just left California, went to TN. 47 jobs lost to TN because of idiotic leadership that caters to the unions above all else. Their suppliers are also leaving at the end of the year, another 14 jobs going away.

    Great State of California, ain’t so great anymore

    • John

      So true the Democrat party works for its cronies – government employee unions (teachers, California prison guard, municipal and state employees and their union thugs)!

  • ccoffer

    Military spending is 4% of GDP and is about the only spending going on these days that is mandated by the constitution. Cutting things that aren’t the problem is a stupid idea.

  • Jim B

    Can I put in a plug for the Clear Lake area of Houston? With NASA cutting back, the already very reasonable housing prices are even lower. Access to the Gulf through Galveston, with its beaches and fishing piers. Arts amenities in downtown Houston abound: Symphony, opera, theater, etc.

  • Ver

    wait to you see the price of a rental truck going OUT of California – if you are coming into California you can almost get for nothing as the demand going out is so high

  • Fred the Fourth

    Let me tell my story:
    Way back in 1989 when Tienanmen Square happened, a relative of my wife was being visited by an elderly lady from Beijing. The president granted a blanket visa extension to visitors like her. She needed a place to stay, and we had just had a baby, so we offered her a room and a job. Since she was thinking about applying for a Green card someday, and wanted to get a CA driver’s license, I dutifully jumped through all the hoops to pay her above the table.
    Now, since I was a software consultant (1099, not W2, in IRS lingo) I had to file quarterly, both state and federal, for my own taxes. My kids had investment income (small, but over the filing threshold). And now I was an employer.
    Net result? One year I filed 19 (nineteen) returns. This also involved 3 visits to the San Jose IRS office, and 4 visits to the San Mateo EDD (California Employment Development Division).
    The lady was with us for about two and a half years. I have a stack of paper about 7 inches thick, just for the rules, handbooks, filings, and correspondance for her. Never mind my own pile for the other returns.
    It’s not just California, though they made the situation five times worse than the Feds.
    Now, when I hear about some hapless government nominee who’s getting beat up in the press over an under-the-table nanny or something similar, I have only sympathy. In fact, it’s effectively impossible to comply with the rules.
    And guess what? There’s agitation in CA for a whole new bunch of regulations for “domestic employees”. This being CA, and Jerry Brown being governor, they’ll most likely become law.
    Is there a word for “more than impossible”?

  • Paul

    And whatever you do, don’t get in a fight with the taxing authorities! What I find even more galling than the ridiculous regulations, spending and tax deals is the absolute arrogance of the state agencies.

    We’re in trouble with the BOE and it appears their new strategy for collecting on the liability is to push so hard we’re forced under. These people are brilliant!

  • Katherine

    Every time I think of moving to Austin I reread this piece by an Austin writer.

    http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/10/day-in-life-of-scorpionator.html

  • Bill DeWalt

    Welcome. Libertarians are welcome, but leave the “bad” inclinations of California in San Diego, please. 5th generation Texican

  • Chris Matthews

    Aw. You should’ve come join us in Nevada… Northern Nevada is much nicer than the south. Close to Tahoe, great outdoor activities, trees, 24-hour town, did I mention trees?

  • SoCal Stoli

    Erica,

    Just about ready to follow you to Texas. I’m not QUITE as mobile as an internet business, but as a licensed customs broker with international logistics experience, pretty much all I need to find a job is a port/airport.

    One thing about military expenditures…while we could (and, probably, would!) argue all day about how the military should or should not be used, it is one of the FEW things that the government spends money on for which the Constitution specifically allows. Get rid of all of the other crap that the Feds were never MEANT to fund (nationalized health programs anyone?!), and you won’t even NOTICE what the military spends.

  • joe

    Well, I never questioned natural selection either, until this article from the American Enterprise Institute, by Rodney Stark, a professor at Baylor University. In other words, it’s not just “dumb” people who have issues with the scientific evidence of natural selection as the basis for the origin of species.

    http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/Evolution-Stark.pdf

  • Boutros90

    Excellent choice. As a 20-year resident of Austin with my own small business (business law firm), I believe you will find it very small business-friendly here. It seems that more and more entrepreneurs are “voting with their feet” and moving from high-tax jurisdictions. It is my hope that high-tax states and the federal government will get the message and adopt policies that encourage small business formation and allow entrepreneurs the freedom to thrive. The U.S. economy could certainly use the boost that would provide!

  • Cheryl

    Well, San Diego’s loss is Austin’s gain. I wish you’d looked at Northern Nevada. LOTS more to offer than Las Vegas, same tax laws. Good luck!

  • Mike

    Just so you know – your blog does not load in Firefox (version 3.6.17).

    • OldJoe

      it does load in ver. 3.0.19

  • Matt

    My family moved to California in the 1870s and it once was a land of real opportunities. When I left for my medical training five years ago, I thought for sure I would come back to my home state. But with fellow physicians in California struggling just to get by, I decided to settle in Colorado. Yes, there are a lot of Californians here and the democrats here are starting to make some of the same mistakes here that they did in the Golden State. But other states are so far ahead of California now in terms of pursuing the American Dream. Now if they just had an In n Out burger and Trader Joes here, I would be in heaven. Will the last entrepreneur to leave California please turn off the lights?

    • http://www.saratogainvestors.com clearfund

      We had a Trader Joes 2 minutes walking from us in Carlsbad CA before moving to Fort Collins, CO this month. We were just looking to see if there was one here, but I bet the ‘no wine/real-beer’ in the stores precludes TJs from making a go of it here.

  • dave in dallas

    Austin is where Dan Rather spends his time off, which is now MOST of his time, and his daughter is apparently a major Democrat party fundraiser there. Austin is San Fran East.

    Texas is about 55% – 45% in voting, roughly speaking. LOTS of Mexicans here, I mean real ones, not a disparaging term for Mexican-Americans.. and all the southwestern communist movements are well represented here. Texas is on the list of lands that Mexican leftists want to “take back”, whatever that means.

    And our governor is not a conservative hero by any stretch. won’t do ANYTHING about the borders, tried to force all teenage girls to take a brand name vaccine against some STD virus, the med was “gardisil” and he almost got it into LAW here… only one manufacturer, of course.. $$$$$… and that doesn’t count the Trans Texas Corridor (giant toll road disrupting 2/3rds of the state for no reason), the 1% gross revenue tax on business (known as the Move to Louisiana tax) and so forth.

    I think the people, on the whole, are more conservative than our conservative leadership. SIGNIFICANTLY more. But it’s by area. Austin is definitely a non-conservative outpost, to say the least. Enjoy! I’m in Dallas, a more conservative place that suits me. Room for everyone in Texas.. and jobs and houses you can afford, etc etc. :-)

  • Charles Fuller

    I refugeed out of the mouldering Golden State in ’99. Only goover there for family obligations now.
    Last year California tried to charge me over $10,000 in state income tax for the years since I’d left the state. They did that without doing anything remotely resembling due diligence to determine that I had not lived there since ’99. They actuallymade excuses that it was legitimate to “assume” my level of income based on what I’d been earning when I did live there.
    On first contact I cot a nastyladyon the phone who said, “Why don’t you just payit?”
    I was a 5th generation Californian, with deep roots in the state. But it’s not partof American anymore.

  • http://senatormark4.org SenatorMark4

    Really Kind of seems like the ONLY people that don’t get 1099′s are people that get ‘income, redistributed’ payments. Once we start doling out 1099-GOV for section 8 housing vouchers, foodstamps (SNAP?), and all the other things that city, county, state, and federal agencies deem important for the general welfare (but the check has a personal name on it!) we’ll know where the money disappears.

  • John C. Randolph

    Erica,

    Regarding Ron Paul and evolution, it’s unfortunate that you believed one of the smears that anti-liberty propagandists have been spreading against him. Dr. Paul’s position on evolution is in fact the mainstream Christian position that has been around since the Anglican church came to grips with it in the late 1800s. That position is that evolution is a fact, but it’s not the whole story. In other words, evolution doesn’t explain the cosmological question of the origin of the universe, and it doesn’t even try to.

    Now, having answered the smear, I will point out that even if Dr. Paul were a “young earth” creationist, it wouldn’t matter to me, because his goal is NOT to dictate to anyone what their children should be taught in schools. He’s observed correctly, many times, that this should not be a federal issue, and the constitution doesn’t delegate any power at all in this area to the federal government.

    -jcr

  • rc

    Please stay in California…you 2 deserve each other. So, you just now discovered your state was boned after it elected Jerry Brown? Geez. You’ll wind up moving to Texas and voting for Democrats there…and after you’ve screwed that place up you’ll keep going east…I hope you fall in into the Atlantic.

    • John C. Randolph

      Democrats don’t leave California for Texas. They go to Colorado.

      -jcr

    • rocat

      rc, reading comprehension is its own reward…

      Did you not notice the part where she worked hard for Meg Whitman? Who was running AGAINST Brown?

      btw, welcome to Texas! But don’t believe anyone who tells you Austin has a ‘dry’ heat. It’s hot. And humid. But pretty great place nonetheless.

    • John

      You are so correct. That’s the problem – liberals move from liberal states to conservative states and forget WHY they moved there in the first place. The libs left Taxachussets and moved to New Hampshire (no income tax, no sales tax, little regulation) and guess what – they are turning the state into a liberal hell, slowly but steadily.

      Hopefully Erica would have learned her lesson – never vote for a liberal.

  • Denton

    You’ll like Texas and Austin is lovely. “God’s Country” is how it’s often described.

    However, please leave all of California behind. The reason Texas works is a combination of business and culture, and coming in and demanding the same state services and goodies California has will ruin it for the rest of us transplants. California got that way because of choices, and we do get folks moving in who want to redo Texas in California’s image. (You might want to check the California attitude at the door too, and your article sure shows a case of it.)

  • http://industrialblog.powerblogs.com IB Bill

    I’m from the Northeast, and did some conferences in Dallas and San Antonio. I liked San Antonio a lot. Everything I know about Austin comes from the movie Slacker. That might be a little out of date at this point.

    In any case, good luck with the move and I hope you make a lot of friends there. Cheers.

  • http://livingradicallywell.com Allison Peacock

    Well, congratulations and welcome to paradise. I’m not surprised that such a smart cookie would find her way to Austin eventually. All of us do. And then we get really quiet and don’t tell anyone else about it. Like a special “members only” paradise club.

    You’ll love it here…

  • Cal taxpayer

    I was a widower with small children for much of the 90′s. To keep working, I hired babysitters. My attorney and accountant set up the method to properly pay all the employment taxes.

    One of my babysitters quit to get married. Months later, she filed for unemployment compensation, which was granted. California paid her about $8000 then dunned me for that amount. I appealed and lost, but the $8000+ judgement was suspended as long as I stopped employing anyone under my employer ID number. In the end, I traded out babysitting with neighbor parents and did other things to stay off California’s radar.

    Had California been sensible about granting unemployment compensation, I could have remained a small-time taxpaying employer.

    This is just one more example of the absurd yet destrucive burdens California imposes on legitimate small businesses.

  • ez

    Welcome to Texas. Help keep our state conservative.

    I suggest you start out buying handguns and getting your concealed carry license :)

  • PaulaC

    Howdy, Erica!

    Y’all come on down. :)

    As a native Texan I can tell you there’s no better place on earth. You’re going to love it!

    Best of luck!

  • Crustyrusty

    Hm. IQ is 148. Mensa membership card is in pocket. Still don’t buy the theory of evolution, sorry….

  • hurtinone

    “But Where to Move…?”

    Fortunately, you’re moving from California. That being the case, you really don’t have to think too hard. The answer is: anywhere. Anywhere is an improvement on California, so unless you’re specifically making a move to enhance your business, you should move wherever you like (after due diligence, of course).

    Unless you’re moving to New York, Illinois, or Mass, you’re going to be moving into a much better financial environment.

  • Mark in Sandy Eggo

    Erica,

    I am about 2 years behind you, and Austin is sounding pretty good. My son has two more years of high school, then I am on my way. I spent the first 22 years of my life in Tucson, and the last 30 in California. The vibrancy in the 80s was awesome.

    Meg Whitman lost me with the whole nannygate thing. It wasn’t that she had illegal alien nanny, who falsified residency. What ticked me off was that after it was discovered, her news conference was about how the nanny was part of the family. If she had said “Yes, I was mad. This person who I trusted lied to the authorities, and revealed herself as an alien to destroy all the efforts I made”, she would have had me. By wimping out, she basically said that she was afflicted with Aurnalditis – caring what the liberal leaning media said about them. So, ever before Jerry Brown was elected, my decision was made.

    For those of you who long for people to stay and help turn it around, I think you are fooling yourself. While the entire country went more conservative/libertarian/Tea Party, California went even MORE liberal. I look at the state similarly to a dot-com I worked for from 2000-2003. You really don’t want to be the last ones out the door.

    I recently read Atlas Shrugged for the first time. The parallels of this work of fiction from 50 years ago is spooky.

    For those

  • http://www.nba.com tom snyder

    Erica,

    After reading these comments, are you sure you want to join THEM in Austin or any other town outside California?

    Tom

    • J. Knight

      Exactly, Tommy, she won’t like us religious rednecks in Texas. And we’re everywhere, with our anti-abortion rallies, mud racing, country music, anti-Yankee rhetoric, and need I go on. Come on, Erica, take Tom’s advice. You will be glad you did!

  • Geoff

    Why on earth should someone care if a politician believes in evolution or not? It’s affect will be zero on anything of importance. I can’t think of a single area where skepticism in that area will mean anything.

    Ok, maybe one. SETI’s funding will still be zero.

  • http://www.smallbusinessrev.com Marty Keller

    The choices are: flight or fight. Small Business Revolution has been launched to harness the potential political power of California’s 3.5 million small business owners to turn this situation around. Now. It is up to us; we are one out of every ten Californians. We will elect a small business-supportive legislature. Redistricting, term limits, open primaries all make 2012 the best chance in decades to defeat the cartels that control Sacramento. http://www.smallbusinessrev.com. Join us today!

  • Gweilo66

    How about Illinois? Wait….

  • Mkelley

    I love all you yuppies who vote Democrat because of “social issues”, then bitch about the high taxes. The reason states like California and Illinois are so broke is because voters have turned them into virtually one party fiefdoms for the Democrats. Spending has gone out of control nationally since the Dems took control of the House in 2006 and the Senate and White House in 2008: http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/125679/ and http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/79840/ Republicans are far from perfect, but Democrats are putting us in the poor house. It’s time for you to pick a side, not just move to some red state that your kind haven’t ruined yet.

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      I did not say anywhere that I vote Democrat. In fact, I pointed out that I campaigned for Meg Whitman in the last election here in California. Please re-read the article and re-check your facts.

  • Navy1946

    Hey! I resent that “spending like a drunken sailor”, As an old x drunken sailor, I quit drinking when I run out of money

  • Gweilo66

    Well..isn’t Austin pretty much the California of Texas? Kind of like Madison, WI? (“78 square miles surrounded by reality”) It’s interesting and entertaining..but not what makes the state functional.

  • NealK

    Good for you. And welcome (in advance) to Texas!

    I’ve seen a couple of other comments about “inexpensive” real estate in Austin and I laugh, because while it’s dirt cheap compared to San Diego (at least the San Diego of three years ago), prices are still pretty steep compared to Dallas or Houston.

  • David

    I grew up in CA. I have lived in Texas, Georgia, Washington and now Mexico City… I would never go back to CA… Austin in lovely. You should be very happy there. Best of luck to you.

  • gman

    “But, with the money we’ll be saving by moving out of state, we can live anywhere in the world we want to ….”

    you’ll save enough to be able to live anywhere you wish anytime you wish, and you left california over an 800 dollar flat tax? over the loss of a few-thousand-dollar-a-month business?

    well, ok. but you are aware that the texas state budget deficit and debt are almost as large as those of california? and that those deficits and debts will require service very soon? might be the reason so many texans are so eager to welcome you to their soon-to-be-heavily-taxed state.

    • gman

      sorry, I meant few-thousand-dollar-a-year.

    • George

      The Texas state budget is balanced. Your talking points are outdated. We had less revenue coming in than “natural growth” so we cut the rate of growth to fit our available funding. Oh, we had to use some of our “rainy day fund” we’d been saving.

      Again, this is an example of why Texas is a GOOD place to move.

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      You must have missed the part where I explain that I pay $30,000 a year in state income tax between my corporations and my personal tax.

  • Steve

    I read the first through “The Final Straw” section where you announced your intention to move away from business-unfriendly CA and immediately thought I’d post a comment: “Welcome to Texas!”. Then I read on a few more paragraphs and see that you really are moving here.

    We moved here from CA about 20 years ago (Houston for us). California is beautiful and a cool place, but yes, the state government and cost of living were crazy even back then.

    So anyway, welcome to Texas!

  • http://www.easyonme.com Tom Campbell

    Erica, you’ll find that California is a gift that keeps on giving. I moved out for similar reasons in 2004. I have a Net-based service business and paid a ton of taxes just like you; probably even more I continued to battle their paperwork for 6 years after leaving. I guesstimate something like $15,000 in accounting & bookkeeping fees. The bureaucracy is ghastly. I hereby predict you will get paperwork from them until 2016. I moved to Arizona, then the Seattle area, FWIW. Arizona has astoundingly little paperwork.

  • Ed

    The corrupt Regime running California is insane for driving a wonderful young woman and entrepreneur out of state.

  • Tracy Coyle

    Erica, I just moved to San Diego area (Poway) and will be here with my small internet business for a couple of years. When the reason I am here is no longer valid, I’ll leave for more accommodating business environs…but who knows – maybe things will change next year after the Nov 2012 earthquake…stranger things have…

  • http://www.breakingzero.com Brian Yang

    I feel your pain. I was also an advocate for Meg Whitman.

    It’s incredible backward logic to penalize the people who produce the most for it’s state.

    Texas is pretty awesome I hear. It’s one of the very few states that has experiences growth during our economic recession.

  • Rob

    The reason you state for not voting for Ron Paul is retarded… What does that have to do with running the country?

  • Fiora

    Excellent article. Nothing in this article surprises me, and I really appreciate some of the finer details on what the laws are actaully doing to small business. I live in Los Angeles, and I would move away in a heartbeat if it weren’t for my job (film).

    One of the internesting things about California politics is the government assumes that business will stay no matter how bad it gets. With entertainment in particular, the thinking is “well, this is where Hollywood is.” However, a lot of studios are talking about moving because it is so expensive to make movies here. I heard in the trades that one show packed up all of their sets, cast, and crew and flew them to New York. They rented locations and lodging for the entire cast and crew, and it was still cheaper than filming in California. Several animation studios are planning to open new expansions in other states and countries, if not planning to move out of state all together. The disconnect in logic always surprises me. I hear people talk about job creation strategies in the same speeches that roll out policies that hurt small business.

  • Ken

    Welcome to Texas

  • http://www.pammarshalla.com Shanti

    YES!! I moved out of Anaheim to TX in July for almost all the same reasons – small business rights, low/no taxes, and low cost of living. Plus, it’s beautiful here, even if it’s not Cali beaches :D Good decision!

  • Mike H

    Austin is a nice place but don’t count out the DFW metroplex. Lots of friendly, thriving communities and easier access to international flights. We now have In and Out Burger here too in case you enjoyed that previously California only restaurant. Texas also has beaches! South Padre island is the best and is close to southern Ca quality but there are others near Corpus Christi or Galveston. All are a 1 day drive or cheap and quick flight away from Austin, DFW, or Houston. Welcome to Texas!

  • Corpus

    Consider Corpus Christi. It’s Austin without the political oddballs and with great beaches.

  • Joel

    If Austin loses it’s lustre, check out Old Northeast St. Petersburg, FL. It is a cool neighborhood with trees, brick streets, craftsman & Victorian houses, great park on the bay, community events, walk to great bars/restaurants, shopping, entertainment, great sports, healthy lifestyle, low cost of living and a short drive to the best beaches in the US. Also, no income taxes, great public transportation, two international airports (TPA & PIE) and excellent health care. Stay in one of the B&Bs or at the Vinoy to check it out.

    • marco73

      Joel, agree with you about St Pete FL. I live in Florida, over on the Tampa side. I think someone from California would be quite impressed with the lifestyle on the West Coast of Florida. The sun even sets in the ocean, (well, the bathtub we call the Gulf of Mexico) just like God intended.

  • Jeanneb

    Welcome to the ex-Californian Club. Lest you think yours is a new experience, let me tell you why I left almost 20 years ago!

    My business involved the occasional painting of industrial equipment. The state EPA inspectors came by 4x a year to check our painting procedures. We always passed. In 1993 a new law designated the kind of paint tips we could use on our sprayers. We bought new tips, documented the purchases in a binder (as required by the new law), AND had the EPA inspector come by before the new law came into effect to certify we were in compliance. We weren’t required to do the pre-certification. We just thought it was a good idea. He found everything was in compliance—even praised our record keeping— and gave us the OK…in writing.

    Just 2 weeks later, after the new law was effective, a different inspector came by. He knew us well, had been coming in for years. He knew we were extremely careful to meet all requirements. But he declared that the tips were non-compliant. Note that they HAD NOT BEEN USED. He didn’t declare we had damaged the environment or anything. It was our PLAN that he found non-compliant. We showed him the pre-certification we’d gotten from the other inspector. Didn’t matter. HE CITED US WITH A FELONY AND FINED US $10,000!

    But that wasn’t my last straw moment. I still believed in justice. I made an appointment with the head of the state EPA in Sacramento. He had his chief compliance officer there. I was confident because we had such good documentation of our efforts to comply. But, in the end, none of that mattered. He agreed the citation was unjust. He agreed no harm was done and we had gone beyond the law trying to comply. But: In writing the applicable new law, the Assembly had not included any provision for reversing a charge, once levied. He saud there was nothing he could do. We were stuck with the fine and a felony on our record.

    That was it. It was like living in “Animal Farm”. Within a year I had closed the business and moved to Alabama. I re-opened (and had to explain that felony, which I resented immensely!). But now we’re thriving here on the Gulf Coast.

    Given that mine was 20 years ago, I can’t even imagine how bad it must be today.

    • Brian C

      “We showed him the pre-certification we’d gotten from the other inspector.”

      That’s beyond horrible: one bureaucrat gave you the nihil obstat, and another levies the boom. A felony?!! For the wrong kind of nozzle, that hadn’t even been used?!! Absurd, beyond belief.

      And these same business-killing losers get a pension for life, with the taxes you pay. What’s even sadder is the political will needed to defang these marauders doesn’t exist. Too few in an state or federal office have ever had to personally encounter the pain of these regulations.

  • Oscar Cannington

    You love Ron Paul as a politician but can’t support him because of a non-political religious belief? Seems very short-sighted to let the country be destroyed because the guy who can save it doesn’t parallel your opinion on every minor topic.

    I happen to think Ron Paul looks funny and isn’t a polished speaker. I was going to vote for him but you’ve inspired me. The Commies can have America and I’ll maintain my impossibly high standards, at least until I’m dragged off to the camps.

  • Faith+1

    Ditto. I’ve closed my offices in California as well. We are now headquartered in Boca Raton because I, personally, couldn’t stand it in Cali anymore. I’m moving the California operations to guess where? Austin, TX. We open the office in November. The unfriendly business atmosphere in Cali has them a company that did more than $50 million from that office and employed 125 workers. Those 125 jobs are now going to Tx. 40 of the former employees are also moving so there is residual effect of their income and their spouses income leaving the state as well.

    Way to go Cali. We are seriously looking at closing our NYC office as well for similar reasons, but our current office lease doesn’t make that truly feasible for at least another 7 months.

  • Ted

    Because I disfavor isolationism in foreign policy, I am no fan of Ron Paul. But, what difference does it make whether a president believes in evolution or string theory? Also, to say that you dislike Republicans because they would cut everything except for one thing is like throwing the baby out with the bath water. (I also suggest to you that the military is the one thing which is worth the spending, because there is a lot of evil out there.) Finally, who gets to marry whom shouldn’t even be a consideration because it makes no difference at all except emotionally (and financially, so long as we keep doling out benefits to spouses). I say we let no one get legally married and maintain marriage strictly as a religious institution.

  • ChrisInGa

    Good for you. I too moved from Los Angeles to Georgia back in 2004. I loved the weather and the outdoors. But lets face it. The raping productive people receive there is unpalatable. I’ve never really understood why so many stay.. My guess is that most probably live off of it rather than get raped by it.

  • http://philmon.blogspot.com/ philmon

    As you pull out of your driveway, queue up “Texas” by Chris Rea. :-)

    Re: Ron Paul … I’ve got reservations about him for other reasons – but one of them’s not “not believing in evolution”. I couldn’t care less what his beliefs on that subject are, as long as he believes

    “in small government, dramatically lower spending, and the right for everyone to smoke marijuana and marry* whomever they want (as long as both people are consenting adults.)”

    *personally, I’m fine with the state the state not meddling in who partners with whom, but I am also against the state having a role in defining what “marriage” is … period, much less to a largely Judeo-Christian culture. We could get around this whole thing with using the word “domestic partnership” in the official government language for all partnerships the state recognizes — and let everyone call whatever relationships whatever they want to. But it’s clear that that is not what the movement is after.

  • James B

    Adam Carolla is based out of California and also had a good bit of money coming in from Amazon, and when the law passed he complained a good bit. And in less than a week they figured out a way around it, you should send them an e-mail and ask how they did it.

    I understand that the Amazon tax was just the last in a long line of anti-business policies, and I applaud your leaving. I lived in Texas for 7 years and it was a great place to live and work. Austin will not be as much of a culture shock as Dallas or Houston.

  • NativeTexan

    Welcome to the Lone Star State, Erica, you’ve made a smart decision. My only council is that you remember what brought you here when it comes time to vote in local elections. Please try to avoid the urge to vote for anything that might bring some of your former home’s “progressiveness” when making your choices, otherwise you’ll only succeed in messing up this state for you and the rest of us already here. And there aren’t very many places left for us to go if this becomes “California-ized.”

  • loras

    San Diego to Austin – interesting. We came thisclose to moving to SD from NYC a few years ago but I wasn’t ready to leave New York. I still think about SD fondly, though – the weather really is the best in the US and the beaches are amazing.

    We have one child in college in Texas (at Rice) and he loves it and another one who is considering some Texas colleges as well. So we’ve started to think about Texas as an empty-nest possibility for us (both self-employed). But I was shocked to discover that property taxes are quite high, on par with California’s and much higher than NYC’s, and it cost approx $250 more to register my son’s car in Texas than it would have in NYC. And while there’s lots of cheap real estate in Texas, the kind of house we would want in Austin or Houston isn’t all that much cheaper than San Diego – we’re talking something in the $1 million range. And no beach!

    Texas is clearly doing a lot of things right but I’m not sure they’re quite as much of a low-cost, low government interference, pro-business mecca as they claim to be.

  • http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/ M. Simon

    Ron Paul? Look up “power vacuum history”.

    Let me give you the short version – the history of power vacuums is not a good one.

  • vlad

    Austin is San Francisco South. You should love it.

  • Moira

    Welcome to Texas! We moved to San Antonio after my husband retired from the military. Love it here. Property taxes are quite high, but no income tax. We own our own business and I still feel regulations are stifling. As for beaches, the Texas Riviera can’t be beat! The gulf coast is just beautiful. However, please don’t bring any out-of-state ideas about changing Texas to something more ‘liberal’, that’s what ruined the place you left. As for Austin, I think it’s the worst place in Texas. My daughter just graduated at UT and couldn’t get out of there fast enough. Not sure what anyone sees in it! Please look around this state, it has so much to offer.

  • NativeTexan

    loras, I suggest you do a little more research. I just renewed the registrations on both our ’08 model passenger cars and they only cost about $65 each. I’m also looking at the receipt for the new lease car we got a couple of weeks ago and the total title and registration fee came to $110. And checking online, I see that Texas is adopting a new fee schedule on September 1 where all passenger cars and light trucks will only be $50.75. All the info can be found here: http://www.txdmv.gov/vehicles/registration/register.htm

    I can’t speak about property taxes except to say they vary throughout the state. Overall however, the cost of living here is much cheaper that either California or the Northeast.

  • Calvin Dodge

    @NativeTexan – there’s also a $90/vehicle “new resident” tax.

    • NativeTexan

      Missed that. Having been born here, it was never a factor. Still, even with that one time charge, it’s cheaper than the price quoted by loras. And much less expensive than California’s system of vehicle registration fees. Perhaps Houston or Harris county charges its own fees in addition to the state? I wouldn’t know, I don’t have to deal with any of that in my city and county.

    • Calvin Dodge

      Houston or Harris county may charge their own fee (we live in Montgomery County), but the “new resident tax” is statewide. That’s OK – a single month’s state income tax (which I paid in CO, but not in TX) will pay that tax for all 3 cars.

  • i

    Erica,

    I feel your pain. As an ex-californian now in Texas, I know you’ll do well.

    As for those one the board questioning the “theory” of evolution or the “theory” of gravity, *please* educate yourself in basic biology before you open your mouths again. You’ll embarrass yourselves, and the USA as a country, much less.

  • J

    The $800 annual business fee I can understand (i.e. why you’re leaving). But this whole Amazon story is not as clear cut as you make it out to be. You are being hurt by Amazon’s behavior, not CA’s decision to collect taxes. They’re the ones who cut you off so they wouldn’t have to collect sales tax. I happen to live in WA where Amazon has its base so I pay taxes all the time on items I buy on Amazon. So Amazon can’t claim they don’t have the software to do the same anywhere else.

    Brick and mortar stores are being killed by competition from internet stores because of the sales tax issue. I feel a lot more sorry for them than I do those of you who have nothing close to the expenses the b&m stores have. None of this would have happened if Amazon wasn’t trying to keep its advantage over the b&m’s. While I realize there are a lot more issues with the state of CA for you, it appears that Amazon screwed you, too.

    • http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/ Soquel Creek

      Ah, but Amazon has no business presence in California, other than their affiliates. I was an Amazon affiliate and I fully support Amazon’s decision. Amazon did more for my small business than the State of California ever has. In fact, California could learn a lot from Amazon about using the Internet to efficiently process forms and transactions.

      The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled on similar cases involving mail-order companies, who are not required to collect sales tax unless they have business “nexus” in the State. Amazon has no employees or physical presence in California and therefore cannot vote. Remember that long-ago battle about “taxation without representation”?

      The Supreme Court also acknowledged that Congress has the jurisdiction to change the law and they purposely have not done so.

      California has the largest single block of U.S. Congressional representatives. If California believes that the federal law should be changed, the California Legislature should inform the California Congressional Delegation to introduce the appropriate legislation.

      The Internet tax law will likely be revoked at the ballot box by California voters in a pending ballot proposition. If it is not revoked, then I fully expect a U.S. Supreme Court challenge by Amazon and others.

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    J – the affiliate tax law was flawed legislation that scapegoats entrepreneurs. I’ve been very acquainted with it since it emerged in New York in 2007 and testified against it before the Ways & Means committee in Texas earlier this year.

    The existing laws have resulted in companies booting their affiliates to avoid the tax nexus, so there are more people out of work, less income taxes to collect, still no incremental sales tax, and less money to be spent back into the state economy.

    In short, it’s been resulting in a net loss, and both Rhode Island and Colorado, where similar laws have passed, have started a repeal process.

    I’d love to see a federal Internet sales tax (Durbin in IL recently introduced a bill), so affiliates would no longer be pawns.

  • http://a John

    I am moving to Georgetown TX and love the business friendly attitude. Austin is liberal but in a Texas way Good Luck to you

  • loras

    Native Texan, thanks for your responses about car registration. I wasn’t clear – I was including the sales tax on the new car as well as the registration. And the whole thing was $250 more than it would have been to register the car in New York City. Property taxes in Austin and Houston (not sure about the rest of the state) are much higher than New York City – by more than double. Certain suburban areas of NY would be more comparable to Texas and San Diego, though.

    That said, we’ve come to love Texas. But for me, the weather is much more of an issue than the taxes. I would love being there from October through April but am just not willing to subject myself to the heat and humidity that exists for half the year. If they can ever figure out how to put a dome over Houston and air-condition the whole city then we’ll talk.

  • Kay

    Have you ever considered that it is BECAUSE Ron Paul is brilliant, that he doesn’t believe in evolution?

    • i

      Only a vanishingly small number of folks without a religious agenda or neurological disorder seriously question evolution.

  • Tracy Coyle

    Dear Kay. According to those wonderful people in Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard was the smartest man in history and he figured out how to help everyone else overcome their emotional/intellectual blocks and lead successful lives. When I came upon them, I told them I was smarter than Hubbard and never had the blocks to begin with.

    Several commenters have suggested that anyone coming to Texas should leave their ‘liberal’ ways behind. I understand that to mean: individual sovereignty/rights and scientific fact will not be allowed to interfere in Texan belief systems of social conservatism (state sanctioned/enforced belief systems) and creationism will not be tolerated.

    It is one of the reasons I will not move to Texas when I leave San Diego. There is more to life than business.

    • Calvin Dodge

      Oh please – “liberal” ways do not include respect for “individual sovereignty/rights”. Liberals stand for nanny-statism, as well as theft from the productive to buy votes from the non-productive.

      THAT is what Texans mean by “ditch the liberal ways” – don’t vote for statists of the sort in California who “erect a multitude of New Offices, and send hither swarms of Officers to harrass the People, and eat out their substance.”

      That’s mostly Democrats, but here it also includes the Republicans who support the statist speaker Joe Straus.

      So that’s TWO things to remember – vote in Republican primaries for anti-statists, then vote for Republicans in the general election.

  • Josh

    Erica just went Galt.

    • Scott Brady

      “Who is John Gault?”

  • bill cole

    Wow! Wow! Wow! You had me until the evolution comment. How does anyone intelligent BELIEVE in that fairy tale? Not a single solitary transitional fossil ever discovered yet evolution is a scientific fact? haha. Way too many other REAL facts that destroy the biggest farce ever fed to libtards.To quote John Wayne ” life is hard, and even harder when you’re stupid “

    • http://texrat.net Randall Arnold

      Wow, bill cole. You actually believe that malarkey about “Not a single solitary transitional fossil ever discovered”? Pure willful ignorance. Lot of irony in your post. I suggest you turn off Faux News and tune out the crazy fundamentalist propaganda. Hoo boy…

    • i

      Bill Cole, I repeat my earlier comment. Read a basic biology book. If you’re not educated on the subject, stop talking. You’re embarrassing yourself and the country.

  • http://www.floorexpert.net Eric

    I wish I could leave California. I am upside down on two California properties and one in Las Vegas. I am stuck right where I am until the market rebounds or I start over from scratch. But at 62, I don’t think I have the energy to start from nothing? Oh yeah, I have a California commercial building I own free and clear, but it’s been on the market for over two years now. I’ve lowered the price 1/3 over the term and I am still sitting on it. Seems no one wants to start a business in California ………………..

  • Diogenes

    I have never seen anyone state my position more clearly. No Democrat I know has any sense of how a business should be run, and no Republican has the combination of economic common sense AND compassion to suit me. Republicans believe in survival of the fittest and economic Darwinism, but they can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that this world is older than 10,000 years. And they also believe that gay people actually choose to be gay.

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    Diogenes – your definition of a republican may be true for the politicians, but it’s not true across the board for the people who vote that way.

    They are less abhorrent to my values and beliefs than the alternative, but I vote economically, not socially.

    • Diogenes

      @Shawn

      Me too. I hold my nose and vote GOP, wondering if the candidates lack the basic common sense to understand science or if they’re just pandering to a superstitious constituency. I don’t know which is worse: ignorance or pandering.

      If a politician genuinely thinks mythology equals fact, it’s scary to know that person has the authority over policy relating to science, education, and medical research.

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    Diogenes – we’re not on the same page there. Your comments are as dogmatic and intolerant as the worst preacher.

  • Tracy Coyle

    Shawn, it is not dogmatic to expect policy makers to adhere to facts and leave their beliefs, no matter how strongly held, at the door. I am talking specifically about matters of science.

    As for ‘compassion’. In general, conservatives seek to provide for those that need assistance but don’t believe it is the federal governments role to do so. California has embraced the desire to provide all forms of assistance, Texas less.

    I don’t want to pull too far afield of the original post, but California is seeking to strip every available penny from those that work and provide taxes to give away to those that need. The result is exactly the issue Erica raises – it drives away the people that CAN pay taxes and leaves a smaller and smaller base supporting those that get the support.

    Whether at the federal level or at the state level, the desire to ‘care’ for everyone has gotten out of control. Whether they be illegal immigrants or adult babies, our compassion at the end of a gov gun has expired. We will take care of ourselves, our families and those in our communities….

  • Diogenes

    @Shawn

    Thank you! A seeker of truth must look beyond superstitions. You honor me.

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    Tracy -

    I’d say it is dogmatic for anybody to assert that politicians with faith are ignorant and/or pandering.

    I guess I moved to Texas, so I could more firmly cling to guns and religion.

  • Tracy Coyle

    A politician that ignores science as a matter of politics, is ignorant and their judgment is not suspect, it is lacking. Given politicians on the Left routinely ignore facts as a matter of politics, I can agree that both parties are suspect – at a minimum.

  • Bill

    OHYIFSGTBOOCA
    oh hell yes it feels so good to be out of california
    I voted with my feet it 2010 . The politics and paying for every body elses programs finally got to me. I left ie: abandoned 625,000 house, yes i walked on it, no more house taxes for CA I had an old car collection 14 to be exact no more california outrageous dmv taxes, no more EPA, no more smg control, no more $400,000 salaried school administrators, no more jerks at the DMV, no more bogus Marin bridge toll ticket penaltys, complaints fell on deaf ears.. and on and on and on. When I had to register to buy ammo was the final straw. Califonia sucks your money away, I felt like the frog in the boiling pot.. When I crossed the border it felt like a foot was lifted off my neck…. I will not tell you the state I moved to but its heaven unlike hell in CA OHYIFSGTBOOCA

  • http://texrat.net Randall Arnold

    It’s not just California. You’re going to find some sort of craziness in any state.

    Here in Texas the government goes to the opposite extreme: regulations so light that business exploits the people and environment, especially when it comes to energy industries. We’ve allowed education to decline to where we are in the very bottom percentile. Funny, but from here California looks pretty good… especially in the Bay Area where so many are hiring…

    • Calvin Dodge

      It’s a standard liberal approach to rate schools by the amount which is spent on them, rather than the results. Those pro-teachers-union folk also play fast and loose with the numbers – they make the “last state in the country” claim for multiple states by cherry-picking which ranking method gives their desired results (Colorado, where I just moved from, is one example).

      This is in spite of the fact that there’s no positive correlation between money spent, and results achieved. One anecdotal example is Kansas City, which – due to the command of a Federal judge – greatly increased the amount of money spent on the schools. The result? No improvement.

      For evidence which is less anecdotal (more statistically significant), see http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html , where the author shows that NAEP tests of 4th and 8th grade students established that Texas students were better-educated than their peers in Wisconsin. NAEP tests are significant because they’re not applied to a self-selected group (like SATs), but are taken by EVERY student in the given grade.

  • Ruby

    I was born and raised in California. My husband and I had 2 businesses there that we built with blood, sweat and tears, just like so many of California’s self-employed. Businesses that greatly contribute to the local economy also (taxes, fees, licenses, job creation, charities, sponsorships, etc etc.) Unfortunately the state was continually hell bent on destroying our productivity. The ignorant mindset of the oppressive state government became intolerable.

    Our entire family finally left that sinking ship two years ago and came to Tennessee. Beautiful state. Best decision EVER. Even taking a huge real estate loss to get out of there, we are so glad to be able to be productive again and away from the endless, ENDLESS tax grabs and ridiculous busy-body regulations.

    There are things I miss about Calif. (friends mainly) but it’s amazing once you actually get out of there, how much you appreciate freedom and what other places have to offer.

  • http://mararose10.wordpress.com/ Mary Jane

    That tax thing in California is a crappy deal. Scary to think it could spread. Good for you for leaving. I grew up in California, and I love it, but I can’t afford to live there.

    I am totally interested in your new course. Please keep me updated.

  • Matt

    Hooray! As an Austinite, welcome! We look forward to your contribution to the local economy.

  • Scott Brady

    Good for you, vote with your feet. We could have used you in South Dakota. Sioux Falls is always ranked very high in the “Best” lists that matter. If you need term other than libertarian how about “classical liberal”?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

  • KG

    I notice you solely blame Jerry Brown for the idiocy in our state, but who do you think passes these dumb laws? The Democrats in Sacramento.

    It’d be nice if you named them too.

  • Brett Glass

    Erica, good luck in Texas, but I think that you will find that the burdens on business (and high cost of living in general) in Austin are much higher than in some other states. I have lived in Texas, and would not want to live there again — not only is the weather oppressively hot, but the roads are extremely dangerous due to the psychopathically aggressive drivers. And when you do have to deal with government bureaucracies, they’re completely intractable. That’s why, when I moved from California, I chose Wyoming. I love it in Laramie.

  • Mark Wrzesniewski

    Thank you Erica. I grew up in SoCal and have many cherished friends and family there. I came back to my birth country, Canada, to go to school but got caught up in life. The socialist climate here is getting unbearable. I’m planning to spend a lot of time back in SoCal but knew the entrepreneurial climate was brutal there. Any one of the other states you mentioned would be acceptable since I’m a constitutionalist. Given the dry climate, Nevada looks like my choice for a home base.
    Thanks again for your research, insight and candor.
    Mark W.

  • Korie

    Amen Sister…
    Enjoy Texas.. If we could afford it i would be right there with ya…

  • Christopher

    As they say….. goodbye, and don’t let the door hit your kiester on the way out.

    The real issue you have is that (unlike Texas) California makes you fill out paperwork, which is not a bad thing. Hell, if it takes you that long to fill out that paperwork you mention in the past above, I want to know what you are doing wrong.

    You could just fill out the form ahead of time, save a scan on your computer, print it out, and then fill in the relevant items.

  • Brian C

    You know what’s really sad? The people who most need to absorb this, who need to really learn about the frustrating obstacles placed before business people/ job creators, probably never will. Even if this blog were sent to them, they’ll find a way to tune out everything in it, absolve themselves of blame, and/or repeat some aggrandized political mantra that doesn’t address objective reality.

  • Mike C

    I am glad to see you voting with your feet. Here in Maine I am on the cusp of doing the same thing for similar reasons. I am lucky to have had the Free State Project set up right next door in tax-free New Hampshire, and when I go that is probably where I will go to.

    I am disappointed to hear you diss Ron Paul for his religious stance though. Although I myself tend toward evolution for the most part I have no problem with people believing whatever they want to believe as long as they are not forcing it down my throat. Personally I’d like to see Pastafarianism taught in school if they are going to take sides on evolution vs. creationism.

    That brings me back to Ron Paul though: He would rightly say that the 1st Amendment guarantees that the government has no right to intervene in anyone’s religious views. Rather than find some equal-opportunity way to have the government interject itself into a given situation (or all situations), the way it does now, he is content to actually pull the plug on unconstitutional government and move on. If we are going to have politicians, that is the kind I want.

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      Yep, Ron Paul is my favorite Republican candidate, and of what we’ve got he’s a far better choice than the others.

  • Mary

    We left Austin after 8 years because the heat was terra-bad. It’s not just in the summer. It starts in April and doesn’t let up until October. Triple digit weather!!! You can’t go outside without sweating and wilting during those months. Somehow the humidity factor increased over the years, which makes it godawful uncomfortable. There’s also a terrible drought that may not let up for another year.

    Great things about Austin are the friendly people, the music venues, the outdoor activities (not during the summer, however), no state income tax, the strong neighborhood associations, the Alamo Drafthouse, SXSW, some good restaurants, Whole Foods’ 80,000 sq ft flagship store, cool shops, SoCo, and so much more.

    Some not so good things are the real estate and commercial interests which are making Austin into another typical high-rise big city. Also the liberal attitude (you’ll be used to that from California). It’s a “blue” city in a “red” state. The property taxes in Travis County (Austin) are terrible and rising. Housing is not cheap, just looks that way compared to the insane price of houses in CA. Lots of CA people coming to Austin for the same reason and bringing higher prices to housing.

    Finally, good on you for leaving CA. The paradise that it once was has been long gone. Good luck!

  • gman

    “well, ok. but you are aware that the texas state budget deficit and debt are almost as large as those of california? and that those deficits and debts will require service very soon? might be the reason so many texans are so eager to welcome you to their soon-to-be-heavily-taxed state.”

    “The Texas state budget is balanced. Your talking points are outdated.”

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

    oh yeah. another point about all these texans welcoming you to texas. don’t forget the “first” rule of investment success – first in, first out.

  • http://www.nba.com tom snyder

    there are few things more nauseating than political discussions. I wish people would just shut up about general economics (which they usually don’t know squat about) and especially anything related to the Tea Party. Oh please!

  • http://healthymindfitbody.com Kevin

    Awesome that you ran the numbers and thought through your decision. As you know, I also went from the Bay Area to San Diego, and thought your assessment of the two areas is spot on.

    Last year on pretty much a whim I moved to Austin in August, just for fun or a “mini-retirement” at home.

    There are many things I liked about it. People are very friendly like San Diego. There are a lot of things to do in and around Austin, lots of hidden little off the beaten path things, cool hole in the wall restaurants and a young, active community (like SD).

    And the weather, seriously is not that bad (although it looks much worse this summer!). I got used to the heat and REALLY enjoyed the sunny skies almost daily (no june gloom there!), and the warm nights (well, August was a little like an oven at night but after that, nights were really nice). From Sept-Dec it was beautiful almost daily.

    The negatives drew me back to CA (although in all fairness, I never intended to stay long term). Austin is great, but there’s really not much else to do in Texas. In SD we have so many options- the beaches, the mountains, the desert, LA, hiking, skiiing- all driving distance. From Austin? Nothing! There’s a few attractions that make nice day trips but that’s it. You have to get on a plane to really get out.

    And, I think the business climate is slightly better than CA. But, there are not nearly the amount of entrepreneurs. (Austin certainly has more than other parts of the state, but I don’t think it’s on par with SD). Yes, we do definitely have higher taxes here. But, in Austin there is more mediocrity (i.e. things aren’t that bad, instead of how much better could things be?).

    I’m with you on libertarianism (would rather see NO gov’t!), but Texas really is not a “small government” state. No income tax but they screw you on property taxes and a lot of other little odds and ends.

    And then there’s the whole bible belt influence….Austin is much different with that than the rest of Texas, but still, I’m willing to bet there are far more churches per square mile in Austin than in SD!

    Also, somehow, the prices of condos in downtown Austin is pretty comparable to downtown SD. No idea why they are that expensive, but certain neighborhoods there get hyped up as “the place to be” and the rent seems inflated to me. See Hyde Park for another example.

    Lastly, and this may have just been the building I was living in, but my energy bills were outrageous! I was paying less in rent than I did in SD, but with the energy bills included it was about the same. A/C is necessary for sure, no ocean breezes to be heard of.

    Anyway good luck I’m sure I’ll see you before you take off.

  • BobN

    Yes, yes, after seven or eight decades of subsidies from the federal govt, TX is a paradise.

    Anyway, if you think moving out of CA before the end of the year is going to “fix” your corporation’s tax situation, I can only assume you didn’t run your idea past a tax attorney.

    Have fun…

  • Lori

    Not true about Ron Paul. At a debate a few months ago, they asked all the candidates to raise their hands if they believed in evolution.

    Ron Paul raised his hand.

    • http://www.erica.biz/ Erica Douglass

      Do you have a cite on that? If so, I’ll update my post.

    • http://healthymindfitbody.com Kevin

      Lori, I remember seeing that. I think it was the other way around. “Raise your hands if you do not believe in evolution.” And Ron Paul did not raise his hand.

      Anyway to me, Ron Paul is right in most of his positions but I don’t believe elections are going to save us. The problem as a whole is, who gravitates towards positions of power? Hardworking entrepreneur-types or power-hungry, greedy types who want to tell you how to run your life and your business?

  • George B

    I am really embarrassed about all of this. Maybe a course in economics should be mandatory for people in government considering legislation that might have an economic impact. How did California believe that it would increase overall revenues to do this? I read last week that business flight from California is currently 5 times the rate it was in 2009. Sure, California might collect a little more sales tax from a few operations but they are going to lose a lot too and they will lose the income tax of the employees that move with the company or become unemployed.

    People like Brown seem to believe they can just waive a magic wand and the trees in Sacramento will bloom money. Honestly, I don’t think this was about revenue. I have noticed a tone among the far left to raise taxes just for the sake of it as a punitive measure against “the rich” and “corporations”. They don’t care about the revenue, they just want to make life “more fair” (Obama’s exact words in 2008 in a debate when the issue of tax cuts causing revenue increases came up). Ok, they are going to get a “fair” sandwich, I hope they don’t choke on it.

  • rpg

    Erica,

    Enjoy TX and thanks for making CA a better place.

  • Pete

    Erica,

    Kudos to you! I lived a block from the beach for 9 years in SoCal and then moved to Houston and now to Phoenix.

    I’m starting up a company and I looked at both SoCal and Austin. Took about 10 minutes – I’m moving to Austin in next several months. It’s great to see my choice validated by someone who’s actually gone through that.

    California – I love you but I’ll only come back once you peeps get off the crazy train.

  • http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/ Soquel Creek

    I fully understand your decision. If I weren’t a fourth-generation Californian, I’d probably do the same. Instead, I plan to stay and fight the insanity and epic failure emanating from Sacramento.

    California has the nation’s 2nd highest marginal tax rate (only Hawaii and Oregon are higher),
    http://www.taxfoundation.o?rg/taxdata/show/228.html

    … the nation’s highest sales tax rate.
    http://www.taxfoundation.o?rg/publications/show/245.h?tml

    … among the nation’s highest gasoline tax rate.
    http://www.taxfoundation.o?rg/publications/show/245.h?tml

    … near the bottom on business tax climate, and has been since at least 2005.
    http://www.taxfoundation.o?rg/research/show/22658.htm?l

    … ranked DEAD LAST as a place to do business on a nationwide survey of 500 CEOs every year since 2005.
    http://chiefexecutive.net/?best-worst-states-for-busi?ness

    … has a Legislature less interested in the California economy and more concerned with a farcical Progressive agenda like banning 100W light bulbs, mandating “gay history” instruction in public schools, providing in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants, an unconstitutional sales tax on out-of-state corporations, and banning fitted sheets in hotels (I wish I were making this stuff up!).

    It should then come as no surprise that California also has the nation’s 2nd worst unemployment rate.
    http://www.bls.gov/web/lau?s/laumstrk.htm

    Because of California’s overly income-progressive Personal Income Tax (PIT), it takes only a small change in demographics by upper-income earners before California suffers a catastrophic change in tax revenues. Roughly half the state’s income tax revenues comes from only about 280,000 taxpayers.
    http://soquelbythecreek.bl?ogspot.com/2009/07/oppress?ive-progressive-income-tax?.html

    But California Legislature, you keep spending and taxing our way to state-mandated prosperity and I’m sure it will all go away… California’s business economy, that is.

  • Paul

    “Pissed everyone off?” Not hardly. That’s the most sense I’ve seen anybody write for quite awhile. Good luck in TX. If my family weren’t anchored in the bay area, I’d be out of Cali for sure. It doesn’t seem the politicians here are interested in saving anything but themselves.

    Funny, in nature, parasites are smart enough not to kill the host. Politicians, evidently, aren’t that smart.

  • Tara

    Loved the post, I have lived in LA for 10 years and at first loved the amazing weather and beautiful foliage but a decade of BS, high taxes, high cost of living, horrible traffic, ridiculous laws and enforcement ($50 for an expired meter? Really?) have me ready to leave. My straw that broke the camels back was after waiting to buy a house for 10 years I am still going through open houses for one million dollar homes that look like tear downs. It is really sad that a beautiful state like CA is becoming a place of the very rich and the very poor normal middle class people who can are bailing on the state b-c you really can’t get ahead here everything is just too expensive. I am planning to move to Seattle in two years and use all the money I save to take a nice vacation to CA and really enjoy the state without having to deal with all the problems.

  • Don

    Don’t blame the government of California for being highly unfriendly to business, which it certainly is. Instead, put the blame right where it needs to go.

    Blame the majority of voters. They elected these idiots, and they routinely elect people who tax like there is no tomorrow. This speaks volumes about how disconnected residents are.

    California is a nanny state. Just look at Northern California: toys in happy meals are ILLEGAL, but dope is legal (you just have to say you feel “stressed” to get it). San Francisco just tried to make owning a goldfish a crime. What nutty priorities.

    What’s worse, the off-kilter fringe that rule the state are nothing but state-enabled pillagers and plunderers who think they know better than you how you should run your daily life. California fringers want the freedom to do whatever they want, and they want you to have the freedom to do whatever they want you to do, too.

    Even though the weather is great, the lunatics in control still rain on you every day.

    Good luck.

  • Cylar

    “There, I should have pretty much pissed everyone off with that last paragraph.”

    If that was your concern Erica, why not just stick to carping about California taxation and business regulation (a perfectly valid set of gripes) and lay off social issues (belief in Darwinian evolution, cannabis legalization, and gay “marriage?”)

    I’m a social conservative and pretty passionate about most issues that fall under that heading. I won’t go so far as to say you’ve pissed me off (now I’m curious as to your position on gun rights, actually) but I think the piece would have been better-served if you had stayed on-point. If you’re not wanting to get political, then don’t get political.

    Other than that, a fine piece.

  • Hank

    A totally idiotic statement: ” I love Ron Paul as a politician, but I don’t understand how someone so obviously brilliant doesn’t believe in evolution.”

    So what!?

    Why does Ron Paul not believing in evolution have to do with anything?!?! So the guy believes (*CORRECTLY*) that God created man.

    Back the guy on the merits of his politics, not his religious beliefs.

    • i

      Short answer? A man willing to lie to himself about one thing is likely to lie to himself about other things. That man is not to be trusted.

      Denying evolution says a lot about his ability to judge and reason. There are values voters and there are reasoning voters and if he doesn’t believe in evolution he failed the reasoning test. He’s either willfully ignorant, or has a religious agenda. In either case, he is willing to override information and logic to host an nonsensical belief system because it makes him more comfortable. What next, pastifarianism?

    • Calvin Dodge

      “But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” – Thomas Jefferson

  • Carol

    The only idiocy I see here is the $800 state corporation registration.

    State income taxes are common nationwide. This money buys stuff that benefits us all. In Massachusetts, for example, it buys low-cost health care that makes it so much easier to be self-employed and even to have employees.

    Thanks to Jerry and others for letting Amazon know that it can’t hide in the cloud. It’s truly too bad that you got caught in the middle, but don’t forget that Amazon.com enjoys all the benefits of the U.S. but tries to dodge taxes. Let’s stop the Amazon kiss-up: It’s a bullying company that price-fixes and mandates set discounts from publishers. Amazon tells publishers they must give it a 55% discount + pay for shipping, no matter what quantity it orders. No bookstore, including Borders, does that. Amazon has put many bookstores out of business, with our spending power. Those bookstores provided benefits, including taxes, to their communities.
    It’s not AT ALL easy to be self-employed, but we still need to pay our fair share of community benefits.

    • http://letdcknow.com/america Chuck Bartok

      Carol, Your points are well taken regarding Fair Share…

      But when you study the False premise the California used to extract more tax from Amazon, based on the specious fact they are represented in California through it’s Independent AFFILIATES YOU REALIZE THE IDIOCY MENTIONED.
      Plus it actually creates a negative Tax Cash flow because the Incomes of the California representatives has vanished.

      And regarding the Bully Amazon..if a publisher is not happy, no one is forcing them to do business with Amazon.

    • Don

      Carol: How has this insane legislation solved anything: Amazon pulled out of the state! Now, THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people have lost a source of income. Those people pay taxes, so now the state gets LESS taxes. And this fiasco extends beyond Amazon: other companies have responded similarly, and new firms won’t even begin to do business in the state. Is LESS REVENUE a good thing? One can only IMAGINE how many TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars will be lost from this. How is that a win in ANY sense? It just makes California even LESS attractive to conduct business in.

      Do you also not realize this hurts SMALLER businesses MORE than large ones? Imagine if a small direct sales business had to track and remit sales tax for every single state/county/city for every customer, for every state? That’s 3 different jurisdictions that would have to be informed and paid based on EACH sale, even if it was just a few dollars. Potentially THOUSANDS of jurisdictions! No small business could keep up with that economically. Only a very large company could manage that kind of elaborate scenario, which is where this could easily go. Even for a large company, it would be complex and cumbersome, fraught with error, and the added costs would be passed on to the customer.

      It’s hard enough to manage the sales tax for your own state. The only way this could work for all is if there was a UNIFIED “national sales tax” system with a single point of collection. Amazon has stated it has no problem with that by the way, and it is hardly the corporate ‘monster’ you make it out to be. Their primary source of revenue now is actually serving as a platform for OTHERS to sell on.

      Amazon is not the problem; the problem is that sellers don’t realize the public is not vested in middlemen, never has been, and now they can do something about it thanks to the internet. That’s just reality.

      Your comment is very uninformed, short sighted, and you have a fractional view of the big picture. California’s many problems are exacerbated by that kind of thinking, which is the hallmark of California’s self-destructive voters.

  • http://blog.affiliatetip.com Shawn Collins

    > …don’t forget that Amazon.com enjoys all the benefits of the U.S. but tries to dodge taxes.

    Actually, Carol, Amazon supports the federal bill from Dick Durbin that would require them to collect state taxes (http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/174455-durbin-introduces-online-tax-bill-has-amazon-support).

    And the issue with the California law with Amazon is about their customers paying sales tax, and not taxes paid by Amazon.

  • Brook Schaaf

    In response to Carol:

    “State income taxes are common nationwide. This money buys stuff that benefits us all.” To a certain extent, everyone benefits from certain government functions, like infrastructure and public safety. But those aren’t the bills (overtime and pensions notwithstanding) that are pushing California toward insolvency. Spending isn’t justified just because it’s ostensibly for the public good. RomneyCare in Massachusetts is a good example of government intervention in the marketplace exacerbating the problems it is mean to solve: http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/25/health-care-mitt-romney.html

    “Amazon.com enjoys all the benefits of the U.S. but tries to dodge taxes.” This is a conflation of state and federal taxes. So far as I know, Amazon pays all its federal taxes but it is not obliged to collect taxes for states in which it has no physical presence and, it should be added, from which it receives no value. A fire department in California is not going to respond to a call in Washington.

    There is a point of diminishing returns for everything and most levels of government in the United States are well past this point. It’s not a revenue problem; it’s a spending problem.

  • http://johnstoneglobal,com Jim

    Welcome to Texas. I made the move From CA back in 1997 and raised my kids here. Now they are up and out and I am ready to sell my large home and move into a smaller one. Perhaps it will be right for your family. Look me up when you get here, I can give you a few tips on traffic, neighborhoods, and schools.

  • http://audrey-iwascurious.blogspot.com/ Audrey

    We used to live in Houston and Dallas and we loved not having to pay state income tax. My husband got a higher paying job in Atlanta and we moved there–but we actually went backwards in take-home pay because we had to pay Georgia State income taxes.

  • http://lendenton.com Len

    Erika,

    Great decision! Welcome to Austin. Bring your friends, too. They’ll love it. I’m sure Portland’s nice, too…but it ain’t Texas.

    Len in Austin

  • Annie

    Keep in mind the “reality” of the “humid” NOT dry… 100+ temperature “6″ months of the year. In fact this year is record breaking… check it out. Also check out the average utility bills paid to your cool home as well… where as other states don’t require so much AC. That said, Austin is a great city 1/2 of the year… hands down! However, during those hot months, it’s important to remember that you need to get your kids and pets outside to play before 8 AM. Also make sure to put the bug spray on after 6PM, so you don’t get eaten alive. Town Lake is wonderful!

  • Brian

    The happiest person does not have the best of everything but makes the best of that which they have.

    While this is a nice post and I admire your ability to make a decision and a move, I see the move more as an experiment. Just like SD was for you. Here you’ve got everybody welcoming you to TX, but you may discover within a year that you love it or will leave it.

    How about perpetual travel?

  • http://www.compunetic.com TCHall

    Bravo to your decision… I took one look at CA before I retired from the service and decided somewhere else (nearly anywhere else) would be my new home.

    As a Native Son that was a huge decision for me!

    After making and losing a couple of small fortunes in NC I moved to Montana…

    A place where the climate is much more exciting, the state budget is in no danger of depleting the world’s Red Ink supply, and The Internet reaches deep into the backwoods thanks to point to point and satellite connections

    All the Best!

    Ted

  • http://www.sgAyyar.com Kozhalmannam Gangadharan Shriram

    Thanks again for that truly insightful article.
    Back here at India the best towns to relocate to , buy shelter and live ; are those with less than a million population. The time to scoot is when the population reaches 30 million.
    Town list I am looking to relocate to are:
    Nainital [Uttarakhand]
    Palakkad [Kerala]
    Hyderabad [Andhra Pradesh]
    Cost of buying shelter , Internet connectivity and zero power outages guiding the decision.

  • http://www.divorceesdating.com Divorcee

    Very interesting read Erika. It is a case of swings and roundabouts, and CA does not seem to hep small businesses.

  • http://www.corporateyoungster.com Corporate Youngster

    Couldn’t agreed more. I love California weather but definitely not business friendly. I recently had to paid out $40,000 worth of sales tax due to an audit. That why i sold my business. They tax you at everything. I even got tax by the city on stuffs that i used for my business like table, chair, and T.V. Are you f*&king kidding me I already paid sales tax for that when i first bought it; now i have to paid an annual tax for that. Is there such thing? Dam we people living in America seem to die by taxation.

  • Shaun

    I was about to start a photo business here in San Diego. But screw that ish! The business taxes are a headache, and I don’t have time to be dealing with all of that crazy, tomfoolery. My family will be moving to Mississippi to be closer to family. Not sure what taxes are like there. I’m sure things will work itself out. But if I don’t move soon, me and my husband are going to be selling sex on the damn corner to pay our bills. It’s too much, and at this point, I could care less who is voted governor. Just get me out of this money pit of a state, ugh!

  • http://burkedroppings.com Wandering Dave

    I grew up in San Diego. When I arrived (many, many years ago), there weren’t anywhere near as many people there — we looked upon Los Angeles with great distain.

    Now, IMO, there are way too many people in San Diego and I wish a couple hundred thousand more would join you in making an exodus to Texas. You will apparently be able to handle the heat and the politics; so, more power to you.

    Those who remain are willing to pay a premium for housing and to put up with an admittedly bipolar state government. Other hassles are just part of the deal and keep lawyers, accountants (and psychologists) employed – which is not all bad as their enterprises don’t tend to damage the environment (except for air quality, which is managed nicely by San Diego’s daily onshore breezes).

    So, farewell Erica. Good luck in Texas and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  • Penny

    OMG, I feel for you. In addition to all the taxes that we already pay that includes states & federal taxes. Sales taxes etc etc… We get slapped on more taxes.We need a new product that can help us dodge tax bullets.Help!

  • Jason Baudendistel

    I personally am independent but Texas has been on my list with Washington. I agree with this post small businesses are our life blood cut them some breaks. Building a new company and understand the frustrations that government can play. Best of luck Erica and if I end up in Austin one day maybe we’ll run into each other one day..lol

  • http://smallbusinessmarketingtipsblog.com Alan Needham

    I moved to North Carolina earlier this year and was not aware that they passed similar legislation a couple of years ago. I became aware when trying to do Amazon affiliate sales and being denied. I will definitely be doing more research on the topic before I move again. Good luck in Texas!

  • Joe Eckstein

    I didn’t know that about Ron Paul – however I have to agree with him on the basis that it really is a THEORY, and it has yet to be proven. Even in scientific articles, it’s all “maybe this happened in the evolutionary chain” there is nothing solid yet proven. This is a free country. I think part of the further logic is that nobody needs to pour government money at it to prove it. So, I’m continuing to support him! :)

  • Gina

    First time on your site. Inspiring!

    I’m a New Yorker but I lived in Houston and San Diego in years past.

    I’ve visited Austin too many times to count. It’s a great city and I’m sure you’ll both love living there.

  • http://www.thesol.com Hank Greer

    Yeah! Welcome to Texas. I love Austin, and I live in Houston (love Houston too!). I actually left San Diego, CA 6 years ago for the VERY SAME reason.

    I got a job that was a $7k increase on paper, but AFTER taxes was a 10k increase! NO INCOME TAX here!

    Houston has been unbelievably good to me. Like I tell my friends, “California is a great place to visit, but I won’t live there.”

  • http://www.financialadvisormarketing.biz Suzanne

    I can see from all the comments here that this is a touchy subject. Twenty years ago I was buying a house in Carlsbad CA and setting up a business. The state of California wanted me to pay a fee of $1500 to register my Hawaii corporation. Through fate, I ended up moving to Arizona instead and when the state of California sent back my application with check because I didn’t dot an “i.” I tore up the check and was $1500 richer! No, I’ll never live in California.

  • http://www.online-business-virtual-assistant.com Shilpi Singha Roy

    I too feel California is forcing more and more tax for each and every thing My sister in law is a doctor there and she always complains about it to me. Thank goodness you decided to go for Texas…

  • http://internetbusiness.co wdycus

    I was just notified by Amazon yesterday that the California Governor Jerry Brown has signed legislation repealing the law that had forced Amazon.com to terminate California Associates. Amazon.com has invited all California Associates whose accounts were closed due to the prior legislation to re-enroll in the Associates Program.
    Erica you have to stay now. What will you do without the great weather and fantastic beaches? There is nowhere in the world like San Diego.

  • Blue Skies

    3 years ago I left California for the midwest. I was tired of the traffic, crime, illegal immigration (I am all for LEGAL immigration, as my family legally came over from Norway in the 1950′s). I owned several rental properties and the laws governing them became more bizarre every year. I was so damn fortunate to have sold at the top of the market, and I moved to Tulsa, OK, based on the suggestion of some family members who already lived here.
    I can honestly say it was a horrible mistake. As someone who cares about the elderly, children and education, gay & lesbian equality, civil rights, the environment and separation of church and state, moving to Oklahoma was a massive mistake. This state is 40 to 60 years behind all others. The ignorance, lack of education, and bible-belt attitude is too much for someone who was born and raised in CA. I am anxiously awaiting my return to California in 2012. Fortunately I can buy real estate at about 40% less than I sold it for in 2007. I can not wait to return to the beaches, the weather, and the culture. The midwest has some fantastic, gracious people, and it was an interesting adventure living here.

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  • Mike

    I’m thinking to relocate to Texas, Austin from Europe, to move my internet based business, invest about half million dollars and hire someone to enlarge my company. What scary me is that i’ve heard of all religious bigotry there, and Texas violent crime, and gun releated culture. It may seem stupid but on TV/internet i see many and many videos/stories of robberies with weapones and people killing other peoples expecially in Texas.

    I lived in Europe for 35 years and never ever seen a gun, or robbery, people can walk in the night alone in most cities without fear, only minor car theft. No gangs here. Only some alcohol problems, but isolated. Mafia only care about construction procurement and drugs, no “single criminals” are there.

    I belive in science and what can i see. I belive that we are all evoluted monkeys, its pretty obvious, i don’t know how someone can negate that. There are valis theories about the Universe, but we’ll never understand that, the human race will end before we can reach a near galaxy, imagine how can we understand what is the universe.

    The problem is that people are too proid to feel that we are important and that someone take care of us (oh yes, go to Africa to see how much god love us)

    I lived near Vatican in Italy for many years, saw the pope etc.
    I do not believe in God, no God exist, and there many people knowing
    this in each religion, but they will never told you this because the Religion IS THE BEST BUSINESS WORLDWIDE. Stupid people giving money to all kind of preachers. Scientology is the top of this idiocy.
    All this stuff it’s just folklore, ancient beliefs.

    A priest told me that it’s just a matter of that people needing to believe that someone exists, and in fact they feel better after a pray, even in the world children literally die each second, even when i’m writing this.

    Bigotry and all kinds of religions are evil for the progress that is the only important thing in this temporary civilization.

    USA is a beautiful country, but have a lot of contradictions, there is NASA, Silycon Valley, the home of computers and technology and the best universities, but people still believe in creationism, Adam and Eve, the preacher of round, while other people lose the house and the family to cure a cancer or other critical medical problems.

    Ridicolous

    Sorry for this “vent”

    • Domain Admin

      Hi, Mike,

      Since I live in Austin, Texas, I thought I’d reply to your post. First, I’d like to put your mind at ease. Austin is an extremely liberal, relaxed, and safe mid-size city.

      While the U.S. in general probably has slightly more crime than most Western European countries, most Americans never experience crime first-hand. We all like our television dramas, but they don’t reflect everyday life for most of us.

      Austin is home to a number of universities, and people here are very open and tolerant. Yes, there are a lot of Americans who are religious, but there are many others who believe as you do.

      There is a gun culture in Texas, but it is mostly a product of the frontier lifestyle of the 1800s and early 1900s, and is largely associated with rural life and hunting.

      The U.S. does not have a good healthcare system, such as those found in most European countries, but a new, much improved law will take effect in 2014. Texas has a very poor social safety net, but on the other hand, we have no state income taxes, as Erica notes in this blog.

      Texas is very diverse. Austin is surrounded by lakes and hills, and is green (although we’ve been having a drought). Other parts of the state are beautiful rugged high desert in the west, rolling plains in the north, piney wood forests in the east, and beaches along the Gulf of Mexico coast. It is hot, but 6 months of the year the climate is lovely.

      All the best,

      Jillian Wheeler

  • http://twitter.com/AmaniCoaching Tiffany McDaniel

    Haha! I love this post. Especially “I’ll go run my business, create jobs, and continue to advocate for less government, fewer laws, and the freedom for us all to create more small businesses…from my new home in Austin, Texas!”

    Love all your posts. keep it up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6ERBGTORH5UCCG6CKMETJVON7Y David N

    My wife and I used to run a small engineering consulting business in California. We lived in the bay area and worked mostly for the pharmaceutical business. We found that our taxes and, frankly, meddling in our business life kept increasing over the years. In 2005 we paid well over $15,000 in various business taxes to the state of California. We bit the bullet and moved to Texas.

    It took us a while. Our client base is, today, mostly Oil & Gas in Texas and we do some pharmaceutical business in North Carolina and Georgia. We did some in California for a while, but even doing a little work in California dragged along so much crap that we eventually quit all work in California. Today, our business is much better. We pay no taxes to Texas, our housing and living costs are greatly reduced. My neighbors in Texas are about 70% from California. The amount of professionals leaving that state is staggering.

    I think you will like Texas. Welcome.

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  • http://twitter.com/MDSFinance MDS Finance

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=699241309 Tony Johnston

    And your going to miss California in a year, I made the same mistake back in 2010 and will be moving back in 2012 – 2013

  • Greg Graham

    Erica, First off thanks for your blog as I enjoy your writing style.

    2nd, you should consider updating this entry as folks like myself are still stumbling upon it. You suggested a November move date. Did this happen? (You haven’t posted any new blogs in 2+ Months)

    Lastly, I was born and raised in SoCal. 5 years away in college and 2 years living in Brazil, otherwise all of my life spent in California. I have been a business owner since 1986. 5 years ago I realized that California circa 2006 had no Resemblance whatsoever with the California I grew up in. More than just the tax oppression, it’s the over crowding which creates all of the other Third-World like living conditions. (Unless of course one’s income is in excess of $400K/year, then one can afford to live away from the unwashed masses)
    L.A. County host 12,000,000 humans at any given time. An area designed for no more than 3-4 million.

    I decided to uproot and relocate to Nevada 3 years ago, after 48 years of calling California my home. If you are like me, after 6 months you will wonder why, and even how you were able to survive California for so long.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mangolious Mango Nusa Dua

    Go get’em cowgirl. To be honest, i do not think anyone cares. Good luck.

  • Kenneth Clark

    I can’t stand the traffic. Portland is not the most ideal place i would want to be but i have to say the traffic is ten times better than California. the beaches are nice though but being a young entrepreneur i can’t afford it. I am content right now doing carpet cleaning Portland

  • Bill Dueease

    Erica, I came across your wonderful rant on the foolishness of California long after you wrote it. You expressed the frustrations many people who actually work for a living are having about California. Your choice of Austin is a smart one. Although, I transplanted from Texas to Florida 20 years ago, I still miss the wonderful Texans.

    Enjoy your new life in Texas and be careful if you come close to Hippy Hollow.

  • http://twitter.com/sadie_lankford Sadie Lankford

    I love this article. California is the “Dream Land” for many,but obviously not when you are a small business owner. Well, with over a million bucks in revenue I wouldn’t call that small, but I think you know what I mean. :) I hate the midwest, I’d much prefer to live in Australia… when I get my income up to where yours is, that is where I shall go. :)

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  • Terresa Clint

    Erica – try out Los Angeles and you’d be gone already. I don’t know about other cities in CA but LA requires a business permit on anyone who gets a 1099 – instead of a W-2 no matter how much income it shows. Say you made $600 doing a side job – stuffing envelopes, whatever and you receive a 1099 to declare that income: The city of LA considers that a small business and you must either apply for a business license or pay the the fee which in that case is $698. Businesses are exempt up to a $100,000 (so why do they bother?) but only if you register as a business by February the preceeding tax year. What if, like most of us, you haven’t an inkling stuffing envelopes or mowing a lawn was a business? Well, you’re out the bucks. The only first time exemption – the amount of the 1099 must have been earned in 7days or less. No, you can’t have made it a few hours here or there. 7 days. You get the picture, its a rat maze with red tape and forms and threatening letters and city offices that never answer the phone. A nightmare.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Magana/1412523079 Walter Magana

    My wife and I left California for the very same reason. We grew up in the Los Angeles area but after we had kids we saw their future and ours being stifled by California’s ever increasing cost of living and taxes. We moved to Austin in 2007 and we love it. We moved to a beautiful and great community with exemplary schools for the cost of about $100/sq. ft. It would have cost us 4 times as much for an equivalent area in California.