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	<title>Comments on: Entrepreneurs: Is Extreme Frugality A Waste of Time?</title>
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	<description>Erica Douglass, &#34;temporarily retired&#34; after selling a successful business at age 26, writes thought-provoking blog entries challenging you to change your life and daring you to become more successful.</description>
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		<title>By: time management</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>time management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Dave.  Outsourcing key tasks IS vital to success, BUT evaluating outsourcing on purely a monetary basis of the value of your time only makes sense if you actually have the energy and drive to use that &quot;saved&quot; time on the business.

Often I find that the break of doing something different (and also maybe saving some money) recharges me for getting back to the Business Coaching that I do.

I love the article.  Keep them coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dave.  Outsourcing key tasks IS vital to success, BUT evaluating outsourcing on purely a monetary basis of the value of your time only makes sense if you actually have the energy and drive to use that &#8220;saved&#8221; time on the business.</p>
<p>Often I find that the break of doing something different (and also maybe saving some money) recharges me for getting back to the Business Coaching that I do.</p>
<p>I love the article.  Keep them coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Doolin</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Doolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsay, increasing income depends on market forces out of anyone&#039;s control.  Spending is an intensely personal decision and under full control of each person.  Reducing spending can be done right now.

Increasing income, for most people on the planet, requires vastly more sacrifice than reducing spending.  For example, I graduated high school in the Rust Belt into the worst recession since the Great Depression (1979).  Reducing spending was easy.  Increasing income required moving to Texas.

I do understand your point.  For most readers of erica.biz, it is valid.   For the vast majority of people on the earth, not yet so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay, increasing income depends on market forces out of anyone&#8217;s control.  Spending is an intensely personal decision and under full control of each person.  Reducing spending can be done right now.</p>
<p>Increasing income, for most people on the planet, requires vastly more sacrifice than reducing spending.  For example, I graduated high school in the Rust Belt into the worst recession since the Great Depression (1979).  Reducing spending was easy.  Increasing income required moving to Texas.</p>
<p>I do understand your point.  For most readers of erica.biz, it is valid.   For the vast majority of people on the earth, not yet so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Doolin</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Doolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that economy is melting down for real, and I do have some free time on my hands, it&#039;s time to get real: my hourly rate is worth exactly what someone is paying for it.

At the moment, that&#039;s $0.

My opportunity costs may be far higher...  But in the end, what one&#039;s time is really worth is what puts cash on the barrel head.

So... cash flow is an issue.  When cash flow is completely negative, frugality measures need to adjust accordingly.

There is one situation though, which I firmly believe *extreme* frugality is justified, if not fact necessary: reducing debt.  Someone with a lot of business acumen and significant positive cash flow can use your guidelines above, as long as they ensure to factor in the cost of carrying the debt load.   Most people on salary would do better to just suck it up and pay the debt down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that economy is melting down for real, and I do have some free time on my hands, it&#8217;s time to get real: my hourly rate is worth exactly what someone is paying for it.</p>
<p>At the moment, that&#8217;s $0.</p>
<p>My opportunity costs may be far higher&#8230;  But in the end, what one&#8217;s time is really worth is what puts cash on the barrel head.</p>
<p>So&#8230; cash flow is an issue.  When cash flow is completely negative, frugality measures need to adjust accordingly.</p>
<p>There is one situation though, which I firmly believe *extreme* frugality is justified, if not fact necessary: reducing debt.  Someone with a lot of business acumen and significant positive cash flow can use your guidelines above, as long as they ensure to factor in the cost of carrying the debt load.   Most people on salary would do better to just suck it up and pay the debt down.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Saunders</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;enjoyment&quot; is a huge factor. I figured out as a &quot;lowly&quot; waitress that I preferred to work a few more $20 hours at the restaurant than spending the same amount of time cleaning my house. And, I could find someone to clean my house better and twice as fast as I could for $10 hours.

Less time working. Work time doing something I liked rather than something I didn&#039;t. Net gain in the money in my pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;enjoyment&#8221; is a huge factor. I figured out as a &#8220;lowly&#8221; waitress that I preferred to work a few more $20 hours at the restaurant than spending the same amount of time cleaning my house. And, I could find someone to clean my house better and twice as fast as I could for $10 hours.</p>
<p>Less time working. Work time doing something I liked rather than something I didn&#8217;t. Net gain in the money in my pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: ericabiz</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1305</link>
		<dc:creator>ericabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trixie: Yep, it&#039;s quite a stumbling block for many people (particularly women) to hire an assistant. I&#039;m still not sure why this is. Perhaps some childhood belief? Whatever it is, there are many preconceived notions that get in the way of building a business. This is just one of them.

@Briana: Perfectly reasonable. :)

@HIB: Welcome, and thank you for subscribing!

@Paul: Completely agreed. Great comment!

@Lindsay: I think for a lot of people it may be easier to save money than to make money. People have a misconception that running a business entails 80-hour weeks for years on end while making little to no money. The concept of &quot;lifestyle businesses&quot; (I am a huge fan of this concept) is starting to change that, but it will take a while for this to percolate down. Frugality will definitely be a huge trend for the next few years, though, as people downshift their spending.

-Erica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trixie: Yep, it&#8217;s quite a stumbling block for many people (particularly women) to hire an assistant. I&#8217;m still not sure why this is. Perhaps some childhood belief? Whatever it is, there are many preconceived notions that get in the way of building a business. This is just one of them.</p>
<p>@Briana: Perfectly reasonable. <img src='http://www.erica.biz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@HIB: Welcome, and thank you for subscribing!</p>
<p>@Paul: Completely agreed. Great comment!</p>
<p>@Lindsay: I think for a lot of people it may be easier to save money than to make money. People have a misconception that running a business entails 80-hour weeks for years on end while making little to no money. The concept of &#8220;lifestyle businesses&#8221; (I am a huge fan of this concept) is starting to change that, but it will take a while for this to percolate down. Frugality will definitely be a huge trend for the next few years, though, as people downshift their spending.</p>
<p>-Erica</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful post, and there certainly are a lot of &quot;frugal living&quot; kinds of blogs and articles out there right now.  It&#039;s understandable, but I&#039;m always surprised more people don&#039;t think the opposite way.  Instead of saying, &quot;how can I reduce my spending?&quot; say, &quot;how can I create more streams of income so I don&#039;t *have* to reduce my spending?&quot;

People get so fixed on the idea that what they make from their day job is all they have and all they ever will have.

Dream big, read for inspiration, and be creative.  You&#039;ll be surprised how many ways you can think of to bring more money into your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful post, and there certainly are a lot of &#8220;frugal living&#8221; kinds of blogs and articles out there right now.  It&#8217;s understandable, but I&#8217;m always surprised more people don&#8217;t think the opposite way.  Instead of saying, &#8220;how can I reduce my spending?&#8221; say, &#8220;how can I create more streams of income so I don&#8217;t *have* to reduce my spending?&#8221;</p>
<p>People get so fixed on the idea that what they make from their day job is all they have and all they ever will have.</p>
<p>Dream big, read for inspiration, and be creative.  You&#8217;ll be surprised how many ways you can think of to bring more money into your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Strauss</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2008/entrepreneurs-is-extreme-frugality-a-waste-of-time/comment-page-1/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great intro to the topic of valuing one&#039;s time.  Time is the substance of life, and the only true measure of wealth.

This is why I&#039;ve always differentiated between &quot;frugal&quot; and &quot;cheap&quot;.  Frugal people are looking for an excellent overall value, while cheap people just want to pay the lowest price.  Dr. Thomas Stanley&#039;s Book, &quot;The Millionaire Next Door&quot; misled millions into believing the wealthy got that way by being &quot;cheap&quot;.  Cheap is how some millionaires got that way, but a million ain&#039;t wealthy.  His lesser-known book, &quot;The Millionaire Mind&quot; reveals that deca-millionaires and above are value-oriented, and are explicitly NOT &quot;first-cost-sensitive&quot;.

It&#039;s always made more sense to me to focus my time and energy on generating more money.  Whether on salary or now in my own business- the best bet is always going for the raise.  If you&#039;re gardening and making soap for anything but the pure enjoyment of the process- you&#039;re stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.  You can only save money one time.  Increased earning can continue and can multiply for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great intro to the topic of valuing one&#8217;s time.  Time is the substance of life, and the only true measure of wealth.</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;ve always differentiated between &#8220;frugal&#8221; and &#8220;cheap&#8221;.  Frugal people are looking for an excellent overall value, while cheap people just want to pay the lowest price.  Dr. Thomas Stanley&#8217;s Book, &#8220;The Millionaire Next Door&#8221; misled millions into believing the wealthy got that way by being &#8220;cheap&#8221;.  Cheap is how some millionaires got that way, but a million ain&#8217;t wealthy.  His lesser-known book, &#8220;The Millionaire Mind&#8221; reveals that deca-millionaires and above are value-oriented, and are explicitly NOT &#8220;first-cost-sensitive&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always made more sense to me to focus my time and energy on generating more money.  Whether on salary or now in my own business- the best bet is always going for the raise.  If you&#8217;re gardening and making soap for anything but the pure enjoyment of the process- you&#8217;re stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.  You can only save money one time.  Increased earning can continue and can multiply for life.</p>
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		<title>By: Acsmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acsmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal frugality pays off for me. I just used my little $15 CVS cashback coupon to get office food for the week and I&#039;m always combining whatever coupons I can to get gifts for others at 30%-50%  off. I only go to the movies for free - I either pay with a relative&#039;s casino points (I&#039;m in Vegas) or go with a friend who works at a theater. And we always bring our own food (for what you&#039;d otherwise be paying, it doesn&#039;t even taste that great!). Work is a different story: expenses get reimbursed and, even  if they don&#039;t, I&#039;ll recruit volunteer interns or pay younger relatives like $15 bucks to learn something new and get it done for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal frugality pays off for me. I just used my little $15 CVS cashback coupon to get office food for the week and I&#8217;m always combining whatever coupons I can to get gifts for others at 30%-50%  off. I only go to the movies for free &#8211; I either pay with a relative&#8217;s casino points (I&#8217;m in Vegas) or go with a friend who works at a theater. And we always bring our own food (for what you&#8217;d otherwise be paying, it doesn&#8217;t even taste that great!). Work is a different story: expenses get reimbursed and, even  if they don&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll recruit volunteer interns or pay younger relatives like $15 bucks to learn something new and get it done for me.</p>
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		<title>By: HIB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a first time visitor. Great post! You bring up a valid point. I&#039;ll be sure to subscribe to your RSS.
Thanks!
-HIB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a first time visitor. Great post! You bring up a valid point. I&#8217;ll be sure to subscribe to your RSS.<br />
Thanks!<br />
-HIB</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re dead on the money finding a good balance is important and being overly frugal can cost you more than its worth. I&#039;ve seen some entrepreneurs do some crazy things to save a bit of money when they should have been out trying to get more business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re dead on the money finding a good balance is important and being overly frugal can cost you more than its worth. I&#8217;ve seen some entrepreneurs do some crazy things to save a bit of money when they should have been out trying to get more business.</p>
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