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	<title>Comments on: Sun CEO misses the boat on datacenters</title>
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		<title>By: SlashChick</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2006/sun-ceo-misses-the-boat-on-datacenters/comment-page-1/#comment-39719</link>
		<dc:creator>SlashChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Skip,

Depends on what you need. If you need cheap labor working your datacenter, then yes, go to the Philippines. If you need the lowest latency to users in the United States, you'll need to have a datacenter with great connectivity...in the United States.

My personal opinion is that both datacenters in and outside of the U.S. will grow in the future...but I am not worried about datacenters in other countries because no matter how cheap the labor is, there are a lot of latency and bandwidth issues to overcome before those become viable for most U.S.-based services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Skip,</p>
<p>Depends on what you need. If you need cheap labor working your datacenter, then yes, go to the Philippines. If you need the lowest latency to users in the United States, you&#8217;ll need to have a datacenter with great connectivity&#8230;in the United States.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that both datacenters in and outside of the U.S. will grow in the future&#8230;but I am not worried about datacenters in other countries because no matter how cheap the labor is, there are a lot of latency and bandwidth issues to overcome before those become viable for most U.S.-based services.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2006/sun-ceo-misses-the-boat-on-datacenters/comment-page-1/#comment-39684</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company is moving a lot of applications to servers located in data centers in the Philipines.  How much longer can Santa Clara compete?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company is moving a lot of applications to servers located in data centers in the Philipines.  How much longer can Santa Clara compete?</p>
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		<title>By: SlashChick</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2006/sun-ceo-misses-the-boat-on-datacenters/comment-page-1/#comment-39659</link>
		<dc:creator>SlashChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bryan,

Right. That's exactly what I was thinking. A golden opportunity for those who can bring a complete package to the market. Of course, the reason it hasn't been done yet is that it will take some software/hardware development to get all of those things into a nice, slick, easy-to-deploy package. However, it's still an idea worth investing in due to its large potential.

Marin (typo?) Allred and Alex Bentenaro -- your IP addresses are the same. Nice try with the multiple names, there. My company wouldn't be successful if it didn't have some differentiation from its competitors. We are local to the Bay Area and host startup companies that want to work with a company whose owner/employees they can see face to face. We price reasonably and differentiate based on service... and, judging from our YOY revenue numbers, we're doing quite well at it. 

I'm curious to know what either you or Schwartz think this new datacenter paradigm will be. I don't doubt that different applications will appear in datacenters, but I do think the main hardware components (switches/routers/servers) will remain essentially similar -- with virtualization being an interesting trend to watch, but not changing the overall look and feel of a datacenter. I welcome your opinion on how things would change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bryan,</p>
<p>Right. That&#8217;s exactly what I was thinking. A golden opportunity for those who can bring a complete package to the market. Of course, the reason it hasn&#8217;t been done yet is that it will take some software/hardware development to get all of those things into a nice, slick, easy-to-deploy package. However, it&#8217;s still an idea worth investing in due to its large potential.</p>
<p>Marin (typo?) Allred and Alex Bentenaro &#8212; your IP addresses are the same. Nice try with the multiple names, there. My company wouldn&#8217;t be successful if it didn&#8217;t have some differentiation from its competitors. We are local to the Bay Area and host startup companies that want to work with a company whose owner/employees they can see face to face. We price reasonably and differentiate based on service&#8230; and, judging from our YOY revenue numbers, we&#8217;re doing quite well at it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to know what either you or Schwartz think this new datacenter paradigm will be. I don&#8217;t doubt that different applications will appear in datacenters, but I do think the main hardware components (switches/routers/servers) will remain essentially similar &#8212; with virtualization being an interesting trend to watch, but not changing the overall look and feel of a datacenter. I welcome your opinion on how things would change.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bentenaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Bentenaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you don't like his post, you run a hosting company, and you have zero differentiation against your competition - except a fancy datacenter you want to tour customers through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you don&#8217;t like his post, you run a hosting company, and you have zero differentiation against your competition - except a fancy datacenter you want to tour customers through.</p>
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		<title>By: Marin Allred</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2006/sun-ceo-misses-the-boat-on-datacenters/comment-page-1/#comment-39650</link>
		<dc:creator>Marin Allred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're missing his point - which is that the traditional datacenter (yesterday's datacenter, isn't that the title?) has really lost its place, and that a new paradigm has to emerge. 

By the way, our Niagara's regularly womp our Intel machines... by a very wide margin. Maybe you're running the wrong type of work on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing his point - which is that the traditional datacenter (yesterday&#8217;s datacenter, isn&#8217;t that the title?) has really lost its place, and that a new paradigm has to emerge. </p>
<p>By the way, our Niagara&#8217;s regularly womp our Intel machines&#8230; by a very wide margin. Maybe you&#8217;re running the wrong type of work on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can think of several companies that would be happy to outsource most--if not all--their IT functionality. 

These are the places that've been around the block with using the brother-in-law as the "IT Director" and are tired of getting jakey service. You make a good point, set up 10 companies at $5k/month = 50k month, hire 3 reboot/tape-swap monkeys ($12k/month) and one talent to set it up ($6k/month) and you're still making enough to fund your hardware/rent and sales force.

Hell, you could get slick and sell a complete package (A webserver + email + 1 TB fileserver for only $5,999.95k/month!!!! What a deal!!!!) to the teeming masses. Do it right, and you can  clone all the new servers, so new installation is e-z and can be done by a monkey. As more servers come on line, just continue to add monkeys to pick up the slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of several companies that would be happy to outsource most&#8211;if not all&#8211;their IT functionality. </p>
<p>These are the places that&#8217;ve been around the block with using the brother-in-law as the &#8220;IT Director&#8221; and are tired of getting jakey service. You make a good point, set up 10 companies at $5k/month = 50k month, hire 3 reboot/tape-swap monkeys ($12k/month) and one talent to set it up ($6k/month) and you&#8217;re still making enough to fund your hardware/rent and sales force.</p>
<p>Hell, you could get slick and sell a complete package (A webserver + email + 1 TB fileserver for only $5,999.95k/month!!!! What a deal!!!!) to the teeming masses. Do it right, and you can  clone all the new servers, so new installation is e-z and can be done by a monkey. As more servers come on line, just continue to add monkeys to pick up the slack.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://www.erica.biz/2006/sun-ceo-misses-the-boat-on-datacenters/comment-page-1/#comment-39629</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
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